Signal isn’t scalable. Telegram isn’t private. At nostr:npub179ud6qjecennnypk4ntphmvdrmtvaqlkgd6x7jsrmjr25hfttlmqpkt45f we present White Noise: the first messenger to fix Nostr’s private chat flaws, scalable E2EE with MLS, no phone numbers, no backend, fully decentralized.
📖 Full article:
https://atlas21.com/white-noise-is-born-the-private-messaging-app-based-on-nostr/
Super happy to see White Noise chat is at last available!
Here is my temporary Npub for testing:
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This sounds awesome. Ready to try the TestFlight on iOS option when available.
I installed from nostr:npub10r8xl2njyepcw2zwv3a6dyufj4e4ajx86hz6v4ehu4gnpupxxp7stjt2p8 on my LineageOS test device since TestFlight was full. Great job guys!
I love Cypherpunks! 🍻
Reminder: never trust a chat app calling itself private. This is called a "honeypot"
That's why the spec has security proofs and the code is open source.
No trust required.
Why would you make a honeypot if you could just require people to trust you?
Did you actually think I thought you had the power to require people to trust you, or are you just changing the subject to distract people from your project being a honeypot?
What's wrong with you? What makes you think they are a honey pot? What - other than being open source and transparent - would you want to see to stop attacking them on every post?
The posts would have to stop showing up on my screen, or they would have to stop being a honeypot (promising privacy they won't/can't actually provide, to entrap people)
Which privacy promises are not being provided?
They literally imply it "is private."
It's an app.
Why did you just make me explain that? It's like 5+5
They say Telegram is not private, yet it is (to a certain threshold) and Signal is private which I would assume is their benchmark. Are you claiming it's less private than Signal? What can others learn about your whitenoise chat what they can't learn about your Signal Chat?
Anyone can learn anything about any chat happening on any smartphone unless you've verified every circuit in every chip on the phone and every circuit in every satellite and every circuit in every government lab to ensure none of the circuits in any of the government labs or satellites are able to wirelessly receive screenshots of everything you do from circuits in your device
Time for your pills?
Most wallet apps claim to be the most secure, probably because clients search for "the most secure". What do you want to do about that?
I don't do pills
"The most secure" is iffy. It's fine if it's just the creator's actual opinion, but I can't think of a time I've seen a really good wallet app where the creator bothered to brag about it
ROFL
Downloading an app gets you:
* 0% of the way to verifying what every circuit in your phone does
* 0% of the way to verifying what every circuit in every satellite does
* 0% of the way to verifying what every circuit in every lab does
But the marketing implies the provided privacy percentage is:
100%
Got it. Nirvana fallacy much.
Nope
Lying to users isn't a good solution to user security. I'm not shooting down a good idea by saying that, I'm just correct.
And it's perfectly possible to address user security in better ways than lying. For example, we already discussed the possibility of making a similar app without lying about it.
Or is the definition Google just showed me not what you meant? I'm not familiar with this
You're getting hung up on marketing slogans that would be violated if the OS spied on the user which it might well be doing but you shit on this project for not acknowledging it might be doing this? Come on, get real.
No u, unironically
I'm not lying, how am I the one that's supposed to "get real?"
Are you stupid?
Modern cryptography makes is possible to send data from A to B through insecure channels. You don't have to trust the middelman. What does the circuit in a satellite can do to change that?
I'm not stupid, your question is
You don't know if there are satellites capable of identifying every image your GPU displays, based on signal it emits
You don't even know if the phone transmits images itself
And nothing wrong with me has any relevance here, you're replying to me doing the right thing
Where is it?
Love it.
First? Doesn't nostr:npub1h0uj825jgcr9lzxyp37ehasuenq070707pj63je07n8mkcsg3u0qnsrwx8 use MLS for gruops
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nostr:npub179ud6qjecennnypk4ntphmvdrmtvaqlkgd6x7jsrmjr25hfttlmqpkt45f hasn’t shown up for 85 days.
Testing with disposable npub1zcudc9gjhru7ncd4zarjaj3kycme98jm6vf346yxnchnxtqxcvsqqus0gr
Send a message
Hasn't worked yet.
Not that I'm unhappy to have a new messenger, but isn't keychat the first to do that?
We just being introduced by Bitchat and now we have white noise .
We living in a fast line of coding
Yeah! I with they could merge into one app!
zapstore:
Looks like internet issues on your side, try again, maybe with a different VPN exit.
Não consigo acessar chat com nenhum dos meus contatos
NSEC bunker support is essential at this stage.
It's the model. Nostr is a business model. That's what really changes things.
Nostr is repricing data by creating an innovative protocol & business model (or models) because of its innovative idea/tech.
Relays will be the cheap servers of the future.
I mean, how many ways are there to buy storage and traffic online in easy and anonymous way?
That's one of the things why think Nostr will win. Because it makes digital data very open and accessible for everyone.
#nostr
nostr:npub1whtn0s68y3cs98zysa4nxrfzss5g5snhndv35tk5m2sudsr7ltms48r3ec I can’t download from Test flight on iOS because it says no new users accepted. Any workaround?
WhiteNoise vs SimpleX?
could not get it to work.. Does not find a user who has it and defaults to legacy invite.
Someone pop my bubble.
This app looks too good to be true. And you know, when something looks too good to be true, it probably isn't.
nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc I know the code is public on github but I thought I could get a quicker reply from someone here: how did you guys handle the decentralization/multiple relays aspect of it? (Since I can't control the relays I write to/read from on White Noise like I can in primal, for example.)
