>We can stay humble and stack sats to become the new 1% in 10 years
Love how he confirms that these people are not cypherpunks in any way, and that the state/corporate cuckery are intended goals.
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Have fun with your privacy shitcoin while we figure out how to fix the money so we can start to fix the world
Nobody outside of criminals that I do not want anywhere near my family want to accept your shitcoin and that will likely never change
You monero people are delusional clowns.
Oh, how you forget that as recently as six years ago, that Blockstream Coin was still commonly linked to criminality.
Having fun being a corpo cocksucker, idiot.
>autoincorrect fucking up my insults
Have fun with monero!
These people are incapable of being reasonable.
If #bitcoin is going to win as free market money it will be adopted by governments and corporations, that was always very obvious. But these entities have no control over the money or its key properties and that’s why it’s so important in being a critical vector in changing their behaviors for the better over time.
Now shitcoiner’s try to use the fact that Bitcoin is winning the adoption battle as a “gotchya”. It’s pretty bizarre but at its root just existential cope from the losers.
The fact remains monero is and will continue to be completely irrelevant. I’ve never met anyone who has monero or wants monero or even knows what it is. Never heard it mentioned on time in the real world. There are a few monero trolls on #nostr but no vendors accept it or want it.
Xmr is economically inert excrement.
This sure is nice fanfiction, too bad reality spits on it with disdain.
Sorry about your mental illnesses. Hope you can claw your way back to sanity at some point. It will be the fight of your life.
:^)
People willing to pay for a privacy service with a privacy koin. Wow I am impressed 😂😂
A small VPN service isn’t representative of economic activity. Cling to your delusions but monero is and will remain economically irrelevant.
deliberately ignoring coincards to go in with your retard babble, I see :^)
Dark web fentanyl dealers need to wash their filthy xmr somehow :)
I’ll let you know when someone mentions monero to me in the world. Might be a couple decades.
In the meantime, if you’d like to make a purchase from me, I am Bitcoin only.
Every arrest because of Monero has usually been because they were swapping out of Monero, and into Bitcoin and using custodial services to pay them.
This wouldn't happen if the people used KYC services but it's generally hard to put illicit gains back into the system, Bitcoin, Monero, or fiat, etc.
P2P markets for buying/selling Bitcoin/Monero I meant to say.
I’m talking about the use of monero on coincards. It’s just people who are washing their dirty money into something useable.
I don't see that as any different than Bitrefill.
Obviously Bitcoin, and Monero aren't as easily spendable in fiat land yet unfortunately.
The goal should be to make both as spendable as possible.
But even if we assume 100% become BTC only for crypto then monero would just use swapping services instead to spend.
I could spend Monero, and you get bitcoin, and you wouldn't know it unless you used an advanced AML system that tracks swapping services.
And let's assume if the global economy was 100% Bitcoinized then some malicious people would see others balances unless merchants used 3rd party custody, or advanced obfuscation methods like coinjoins, payjoins, or whirlpools, etc. But those who didn't would be attacked if they had large BTC amounts.
This would become common enough where people would begin to save in privacy assets instead to protect themselves.
definitely not interested in being a customer after your behavior in this thread.
your attitude is exactly the same as a nocoiner circa 2016
"only druggies use Bitcoin, let me know when some legit service is taking it" 🙄
shitting on something, but not on the merits, just on association and propaganda.
cool cool
>only criminals use monero
>sells cannabis, which is still illegal at the federal level, while accepting blockstream coin for it
topkek
Fentanyl / meth / opioids ≠ cannabis but wouldn’t expect you to understand.
I really don’t care to tell others they can’t sell or consume any substance. But I personally would never respect or have any association with someone who sold drugs of death. I find them abhorrent as human beings.
Good thing I'm here to do all the judging then. Others shouldn't sell or consume fentanyl, meth, opioids, or cannabis. People should live an authentic life, and people should make their living producing something that doesn't have to interfere with people's internal signaling before it will appear valuable to anyone.
I don't give a shit about whether a drug harms someone's health and neither should anyone else. Fentanyl, meth, opiods, and cannabis would all be bad even if they didn't have any adverse long term health effects. The problem is the direct short term affects.
I said I don’t care to tell them what to do. I am judging them and said I don’t want to be around people who do that. But in the end, it’s everyone’s personal choice to decide.
Okay, so you judge meth users. So what? Do you judge people for using the cannabis you sell to them?
Not at all because cannabis at worst is harmless and at best, medicinal.
Meth, opioids and drugs like fentanyl destroy the human body and mind and make users dangerous. Cannabis doesn’t do that. If you can’t tell the difference then I don’t trust your judgement.
Do you really not get it? I don't give a shit about whether a drug destroys the human body or how people act while on the drug. Fentanyl, meth, and opiods would all be bad even if they didn't have any adverse long term effects on the human body or mind and even if people taking these drugs were perfectly well adjusted while under the influence.
Cannabis is an exogenous ligand thqt interferes with the human body's internal signaling mechanisms. Cannabis isn't sustainance and it bypasses human sensory organs to manipulate people from the inside. The effects that cannabis has on us are shallow, inauthentic, and meaningless.
Try me!
Thanks for your opinions.
It's my pleasure. I appreciate you sharing your beliefs as well. Just so nobody gets confused though, my beliefs aren't just opinions since I am willing and able to provide justification for them. I'm interested to hear if you have a response to my criticism of your cannabis selling, but if you are tired then I understand if you want to call it quits for now.
bro... cannabis is definitely harmful. it can be medicinal, too... but don't get it twisted. the whole argument that you can't kill somebody with THC could very well be accurate, but that doesn't mean it's harmless by any means. This is why you feel that giving your product to 5 year olds would be a bad idea.
i say this as somebody who uses it, and plenty of other substances.
I have monero and want monero. You probably don't hear about it because the monero bros are even more embarrassing than the bitcoin maxis, and no one wants to be associated with them. Both have merits and uses.
Yeah there are maybe a dozen people on Nostr who are monero enjoyers. But this a global platform for people interested in cryptography and freedom. It is a purpose-built protocol to attract that type of person and monero representation is still tiny.
Even on Nostr no successful vendors that I’m aware of want or accept monero. It’s totally irrelevant sans the 5 clowns who spend all of their finite time arguing about monero with bitcoiner’s on Nostr. Very pathetic way the xmr boys of Nostr spend their life.
In the actual world I’ve never heard a single person mention monero once. And I’ve heard many mentions of other shitcoins over the years. I personally know 3 people who have adopted bitcoin properly and use it as well.
...There are vendors on Nostr?
Bruv!! 👋🏼
nostr:npub1c74n52sngtmceu96gxms7lsfcdz3gqsfla9swcdgt7wc0qw684zqfe2cj2 doesn't sell ON nostr, but its a bitcoin-only company and is designed specifically for nostr users (and features many nostr authors)
And my boy nostr:nprofile1qqszdzu53dd2kjatpe2rpmjfu08lz9mkeuvrm7fmxg2el9nsa42pf9gpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejq37ece9 advertizes a Bitcoin AND Monero service on Nostr.
But enough with all this pointless evidence. It doesn't matter who shills what on Nostr. Nostr should be a microblogging platform, not a cryptocurrency shilling platform.
there are like 5 maxi vendors in nostr.
but this guy wants to believe that represents something more than his little echo chamber
Found a reasonable monero guy! Why is being a bitcoin maxi a bad thing though?
I have zero issue with monero. I personally think it is a shitcoin and have no use for it but support everyone’s ability to utilize it
The problem as you stated are with the insufferable monero bros who constantly bash bitcoin and bitcoiners
bitcoin is completely overreliant on centralized lightning companies that obey the government, and lightning will never scale to the world in any other way. these companies absolutely do have control over the money and its key properties.
Let them try to change the 21m hard cap or restrict the ability for us to run nodes and audit supply/transact without having to rely on a third party
Until that actually happens nobody controls the money and you can continue to larp that bitcoin is failed and captured
>transact without having to rely on a third party
this is already restricted in the protocol because "muh decentralization" and every method of getting around it makes centralized lightning companies irrelevant, so they all scream "ossify" and nothing gets done. YOU can do it today because most people just use a centralized third party. if most people try to do it, it becomes unaffordable. this is completely on purpose
Lighting represents less than 1/4000th of the Bitcoin network. Lmao. Such over reliance.
Goatmeal, an npub dedicated to hating Bitcoin and its user base. Very sane and normal 😂
It’s all so tiresome…if these morons would just stay humble and stack sats they would be so much happier ha
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Monero is used more than Bitcoin (LN or onchain) at ANY vendor that accepts both. VASTLY more in most cases.
XMR mcap is 10x the Lightning network.
If Monero is economic shit, LN is so even more.
and I use all the above options.
Calm down bro
If Bitcoin is gonna win, it will end the era of the Mega-state and all it's state sponsored Monopolies funded via the money printer. If the current governments and fiat dependent corporations attempt to do anything with Bitcoin it will be for the sole purpose of usurping Bitcoin's goal as the fiat replacement.
Exactly.
"Fix the money" is apparently maxi-speak for "make me rich bitch"
Fix the money means exactly what it says
Gold led us to fiat and fiat has created the distorted system we currently all live under. Until we fix the money everything else is a distraction
Bitcoin fixes the money. Meanwhile you think some niche privacy coin actually matters and spend all your time on here bashing bitcoin and shilling your shitcoin. You guys are no better than Ethereum shills at this point
you're literally the only person here who mentioned shitcoins
get a fucking life bro
Sure in this particular thread after you decided to troll a bitcoiners post
I have seen plenty of your posts/replies shilling monero
receipts or STFU
Wasn’t very hard 😂
Keep shilling your shitcoin though!
and what exactly is your problem with what I said?
or is this just "nobody should ever discuss anything else except for Bitcoin"
Nobody is asking for you to reply to posts about bitcoin in order for you to shill your shitcoin.
It’s annoying and all you monero bros are the same.
do it all you want though and we will continue to call out the bullshit
You're the only one in your "Bitcoin chat", while there are 10+ distinct Bitcoiners from early on that teach the novice that you still are about principals.
again
show me a post where i replied to posts about Bitcoin in order to shill Monero.
because quoting a post about Bitcoin and Monero is definitely NOT that.
Man, turn of 5G! You are grilling yourself and the family you claim to protect...
Here's a rabbit hole fir you. Great work in RF by a real Bitcoiner (also open for Monero).
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A deflationary currency doesn't fix the money, that's why Nixon abandoned the gold standard because it didn't give the economy the money it needed to operate.
Because as most Saylor Maxis have proven they just spend fiat, and hold Bitcoin in the hopes it's value continues to go up, they don't intend to spend, or use it at all.
Whereas with Monero its "inflation" will stay under 1% in perpetuity.
In almost every market where Bitcoin, and Monero compete Monero usually Dominates.
Retard spotted!
Someone really bought into the Keynesian propaganda
Nixon abandoned the gold standard because he was a piece of shit politician that could not control spending lol
Yes, I mentioned that in my note.
Nixon wanted to spend more than the gold backed dollars in circulation.
And because gold is a failed money that requires trust and centralization he was able to move to fiat
Bitcoin fixed the money problems that gold couldn’t
Gold is inefficient but not failed.
People used to settle in gold with coins, etc. but preferred cash because the technology to make gold lighter, and more portable didn't exist until very recently.
The gold inefficiency problem has been improved upon with goldbacks.
Bitcoin took away currency control on the internet, and was an amazing proof on concept that allowed better cryptocurrencies to arise.
I agree that without Bitcoin as a prototype other projects probably wouldn't have been made but like any technology innovation is inevitable.
And most people agree that Monero, and Z-cash are the next technological upgrades to Bitcoin.
The only niche privacy coin here is Lightning. You already explained to us what your goal is. Uour goal is to become a 1%er. The biggest problem with fiat in your eyes is that everybody else has more than you.
Ugh you have no idea who i am or what my goals are. Yes i want to get wealthy and will put in the work to do so. I am not jealous of those with more than I have though
The biggest problem with fiat and the current system is the ones with the most are the ones that control the issuance and usage. They change the rules when they need to so they can continue to be the largest holders. “Its a big club and we aren’t in it” - George Carlin
Bitcoin levels the monetary playing field. The large holders cannot change the rules. If they want to continue to be large holders they need to earn more than they spend by providing value to world. Otherwise they will spend and not be large holders anymore
Stay humble and stack sats
It sounds like an issue of fairness to you. If you didn't feel like you were being cheated out of your fair share then you wouldn't care how distorted or broken the system was.
To me though it's an issue of responsibility. I am willing to face any sort of unfair treatment if it means I get to be in control of my own transactions.
The state thinks this niche privacycoin matters enough to ban it.
I'd call this a win and the clearest signal one can get. Especially since OG Bitcoiners expected exactly this outcome.
Look who is back! Hope all is well!
Good luck with monero sir
The people are broken. Money will never change that. Fix the People, fix the world.