bitcoin is bitcoin core
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Here is the root of the problem with core devs and their supporters.
lmao no
For now.
Anyone can fork Bitcoin core.
In an extremely technical sense maybe, but wrong on many other levels.
Probably not for long
It's 80% bitcoin and falling. One can only hope for Bitcoins sake it vanishes where it belongs to together with its devs.
what have you done to contribute to bitcoin development?
Will, what good do you think arguing on social media is going to do? Especially when it seems like your argument reduces down to *not a dev = no opinion*. That’s not going to change anyone’s mind.
At least i get to annoy some retards and i get some entertainment out of that
You need to control your ego, not let your ego control you. Most of things I've seen you say in the last week have basically amounted to "you're not a dev, so you're not important." It doesn't even matter if you're technically right - you will lose in every possible way if you keep that up. And that will hurt bitcoin.
I really wish a cared
Free marketing for Knots and for people to understand why we need ossification. Otherwise, Bitcoin will perish at the hubris of developers
This only reveals you are arrogant and lack of arguments . Nothing more 🫣
I try to stop retards like you to influence bitcoin for the worse. I guess that's enough.
Looks like some devs going mental now that they getting slowly replaced by AI.
GFY
You do not change Bitcoin, Bitcoin changes you.
jb55 ≠ Bitcoin guru. You're the IT janitor, not the landlord.
It's not, according to Bitcoin Core:
> Bitcoin is a network that is defined by its users, who have ultimate freedom in choosing what software they use (fully-validating or not) and implementing whatever policies they desire. Bitcoin Core contributors are not in a position to mandate what those are. One way this is reflected is by our long-running practice of avoiding auto-updating in the software. This means that no entity can unilaterally push out changes to Bitcoin Core users: changes must be made by users choosing to adopt new software releases themselves, or if they so desire, different software. Being free to run any software is the network’s primary safeguard against coercion.
As an argument entropies, refuse to engage. Both sides fall victim while the world watches.
Bitcoin is a protocol, Core is a reference implementation.
not true although commonly misunderstood, only core’s consensus implementation is canonical, otherwise you risk having subtle splits/bugs.
It is past time to fully separate them, because it is true. It is just conflated. Bitcoin serves as a protocol, it is just not documented as such, in a way where it is managed that way. Until now, the protocol has been basically what core releases, but as node code diversifies, the nodes and miners vote for the protocol with their adoption, if it leads to a split, as it has before, it is worked out economically. There is a bit of a time that the market takes to decide which branch wins, that branch has historically retained the name Bitcoin and the other is named something else as it continues to lose its fight.
In the coming fork wars, the two chains may have a longer fight for victory, depending on the scale of the division.
Time will tell if any of this comes to fruition, but I suspect that no one will let their stance die and it will get messy.
The good news, everyone gets an altcoin to dump early or hodl to irrelevance. It is what it is.
Fauci: I am the science.
Core: bitcoin is bitcoin core.
The same circus in a different tent for the same brain-dead cultists.
Small dick energy
Bitcoin is what the majority decides
Can someone tell me why increasing op_return size limit is a good thing? How does it make bitcoin better as a monetary network? Does it make lightning, Ark, or ecash way better?
That’s not the point! The point is that the mempool limit is useless and you already can mine transactions with bigger op_return data. The consensus rules don’t care about the op_return size.
That’s why the whole discussion is stupid
Ah, ok. That’s helpful. So, bigger sizes are already allowed. Core is just removing an arbitrary limit.
There’s nothing arbitrary about it. Yes, it’s possible to make a larger op return and put it into a block, but it’s not trivial and if you check the number of larger than 80 bytes op returns, it’s only 0.01% of all the op returns since 2014. So the limit works as intended and now it’s nuked out of the water to make it easy for some VC pressure groups that want to turn Bitcoin into a crappier Ethereum.
thats because there is no active protocol that uses more, it is of course trivial to get around cores filter. i could do it right now with little effort. I could do it with 99% knots adoption. anyone claiming otherwise is delusional
But isn’t fair to ask why Core is removing the limit? Does removing it make the code base easier to read/maintain Like, what’s the rationale? Does keeping the limit hurt anything?
Didn’t you brag about working on Bitcoin since 2010? Sure, it’s easy for you. That doesn’t mean it’s easy for the 99% of spam enjoyers, most of whom are low tier clowns. Every filter adds opportunity cost. In other words, it raises the bar for on-chain spam, even for competent spammers, and the less technically capable you are, the steeper that bar gets.
it would be very easy for them, most of the time you can get around it by just pasting a tx into a web form. wow so difficult.
Larger op_returns mean more room for art on-chain, friend. More pixels, more prayers, more proof we’re here to build, not just transact. Lightning loves creativity, zaps power the art machine ⚡
My take: This is all a storm in a teacup. But if we get some competition to Core out of this, then fine. And maybe a few people actually learn a bit of how bitcoin really works, which is good. But the issue itself is maybe worth a discussion, but never a "war".
bitcoin is what the node runners say it is.
... and a good number of them seem to disagree with you.
... not enough to fork
... yet.
No.
It's my understending that Luke takes the latest release of core and then 'undoes' some of their tweaks, but I could be wrong
Bitcoin is the consensus rules and the network. Core is just the more popular implementation, for now anyway.
This smells like an appeal to authority. Trying to equate Core with Bitcoin.
Factually inaccurate.
Bitcoin node software is mostly Bitcoin Core, but soon 20% will be Knots.
knots is Bitcoin core retard
Wow when you put it like that I realize its all the same and there's no difference at all. Were having a big online debate all about nothing because Knots literally is Core. They're 100% the same thing. You're so right!!!
Fucking idiot
Explain why, behave like a thinking person not a troll.
how about you volunteer for this kind of one client one protocol maximalism by quitting with damus and notedeck then?
primal is enough. primal is good. everyone loves primal.