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Not important.

The relay the spammer is posting to.

The issue is that clients will need to adopt/be updated to handle PoW reqs from relays that implement it.

But, at the core, each relay is sovereign and dictates what it finds acceptable from actors. It can try to track spammers (by ip, npub, traffic patterns) or give up on that idea and just raise/lower difficulty of the PoW for all users at once.

The spammer can and will move to another relay.

Most likely, the spammer will be using their own relay.

You just want to be on the right ones. Maybe those that have PoW and each post shares the nonce.

Like bitcoin, nostr either becomes resilient or it fails.

Good parents encourage their children to be exposed to the world. It’s how they build immunities and learn to adapt.

It’s the helicopter parents that breed weak adults.

You don’t have to praise reply-guy to be happy that this kind of attack finally happened, as it’s clearly (visibly, as you say) having a long term positive effect. And if not? Nostr doesn’t deserve to survive.

Shit take, man.

lol. Who says reply-guy is benevolent? How do you know this isn’t a test run for tooling that they’ll later sell?

100%!

That people are questioning whether or not it will have any efficacy shows how little they know about the components of bitcoin and the backing history - let alone experience with those components.

*Of course* it will help.

People wanting a panacea are in for a rude awakening, and are showing their inexperience in building public systems at scale.

I mean - why the pushback against PoW? Is this some kind of shitcoiner propaganda?

Obviously there is more to this than an “investigation”.

Anyone with half a brain can determine whether or not a nuke was used with a $30 Geiger counter. An investigation is not needed.

Hell, it’s clear from the video to anyone who is watched enough footage of early, weak nukes that that explosion wasn’t nearly big enough.

Are you constantly replying? If not, then no.

Yes. We don’t even need to prove it, it’s common sense:

If a spammer can programmatically submit any number of requests before PoW, and then after PoW they have to spend even just 5% more compute resources to send the same amount of spam, their costs increase by at least 5%. If they can’t afford the costs, the spam is reduced.

Other rate limiting techniques generally incur more costs on the host than the spammer (captcha, tracking, forensic analysis)… thats the wrong direction and eventually leads to centralization (only those with money run public relays).

A relay can _combine_ techniques, if they can afford to do so, for best results.

The goal isn’t elimination, it’s to incur costs on the spammer. We don’t need to outrun the bear, just the slowest runner.

Yeah. They don’t have to be elastic IPs.

Those are AWS IPs. No need for a vpn. They can (programmatically) recycle them faster than anyone can block them.

The ol’ fav of RC enthusiasts for decades:

A long, long string attached to a tennis ball / baseball. Get the line looped over the general branch area, then one person on each end take turns see-sawing the branches until it falls out.

If the drone has the capability, running the props in reverse to try to unhook them can sometimes help.

YES. Depression-era survivors knew what was up. My grandfather was a fucking saver. No education, hustled in a trade job, retired with no debt and still had $500k in the bank by the time he died in his 80s (20 years ago).

My grandparents had freezers stuffed full of food that they only bought on big sales. They lived comfortably, but frugally. They travelled at cheaper times, saw the world.

My parents (boomers) died with debt and < $250k. They thought I was radical / fanatical about no debt and saving.

Bring the old ways back. Built and perfected by hard men and women.