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Web2和Web3失踪人口、次世代互联网 #NextGenWeb 原住民 “币圈是个法币本位大赌场Crypto is a fiat-standard grand casino”

我也觉得教育是个伪命题,我从小到大的老师都非常糟糕(不妨碍我学习好

为啥要小孩从小学国学?

就不能让家长去上上怎么做一个家长的课?

家长欠教育是几乎所有问题(家庭问题就是政治问题)的根本。

How much time did you take to PoW your npub?😂

#[0]

狗屁膏药牛皮癣来了。

如果我买的哪个股票/币的市场部是这么做营销的,我会觉得我应该第一时间清仓,说真的😂

OP holder自己看看,你们的社区尽不干人事😅

亚洲的朋友们关注起来: #[0]​

“耶,亞力維新,已經成功維新2%了”(不知道有没有人能看懂这个梗🤣

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agreed

Only took me 3 minutes to read these words long, my brain works fast😎

Replying to Avatar HoloKat

My perspective on Elon is very different from Lyn. To preface, I am not an Elon fanboy, don’t own any Tesla, SpaceX. Some random thoughts:

1. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize a person and call their work scams without them being there to defend themselves.

2. It’s easy to jump on the hate bandwagon if you are part of the same community and someone respected makes a strong statement, but that doesn’t make that statement true.

3. To me it makes no difference what you specialize in as a founder, engineering, marketing, a bit of both, or neither. The job of an organizational leader is to find people smarter than them to take charge of various aspects of a company. If you are the smartest person in the room and doing everything yourself, you’ve limited yourself and your company drastically. The fact that he is a better marketer shouldn’t matter in personal judgements.

4. From what I’ve read and heard, it seems Tesla was a tiny company when he took over. Even if he did “buy in” the fact that it is where it is today says something about his talent (whatever you decide that talent is). Subsidies or not, he is playing by the existing rules and avenues provided to him. This is what successful entrepreneurs do - figure out ways to make things work. I don’t understand why people are hung up on subsidies.

5. I heard in a video interview of someone senior at NASA being very grateful that SpaceX exists. The private nature of the company has brought costs down significantly for NASA. Was he bootstrapped by NASA? Sure. But getting govt. contracts and funding is sorta expected when you are building a spaceship company…

6. I don’t agree with Saife that his rockets are going nowhere. If the goal is truly to settle Mars, then naturally you’re going to do a lot of other things prior to actually doing that thing. It’s not cheap, it’s not immediately beneficial but such is the tradeoff for colonizing another planet. Whether he actually plans to do this or not is not something I would know, nor anyone here - it’s all just guesses.

7. Don’t know enough about Solar company, but if the only sin is facing bankruptcy, I don’t see how that can be used as an insult in any manner. Businesses fail all the time. Most businesses fail by default. There’s nothing atypical about this situation unless there are some details I am unaware of. Again, if solar company took advantage of subsidies, I don’t see how that’s a negative - in fact it’s the smart thing to do. The playbook is there, he’s just playing it.

8. Whether Elon actually bought Twitter for free speech is also anyone’s guess. I don’t think we can judge him on his actions with Twitter. What seems dumb to us, could actually be a smart long term move. I don’t know whether they are smart moves (something tells me they are not), but a lot of people who did seemingly weird things and were criticized at the time ended up succeeding. If I am not mistaken, Apple was mocked for the iPhone not having a physical keyboard. Many prominent figures in history were mocked for their thoughts and ideas only to be vindicated later.

9. Where he gets funding from seems irrelevant to me. Saudis, China… who cares? You are wearing clothes made by child labor, yet nobody is complaining. China and Saudis probably own half of America, where are the outcries about that?

10. Like many, I think he is screwing up big time with Doge. I think he’s wrong by not embracing Bitcoin, wrong with his Twitter moves. Something tells me he is acting out of desperation - just doing what he think is best, whether that’s the right thing or not.

Lastly, we don’t know what kind of pressure he’s under, what his family life is like, so many unknowns to understand why someone does something. There may be only 1 person here qualified who understands what kind of pressure can be on them at that level but it’s certainly not me or you. It’s easy to be on the sidelines pretending like we all know the right answers, but a different thing entirely living it and making the calls as you go.

It’s very likely that Nostr dominates everything long term - this I am very bullish on, but I also don’t wish the worst even for my enemies. I hope Elon finds a way and doesn’t lose everything in the process. Twitter has been a great connecting tool for many years and has made so many people much more aware of what’s happening in the world. My hope is that Twitter somehow integrates with Nostr in some form, even as a baby step, before everyone else in the legacy media catches on.

agreed

熬夜会让你第二天脑子变蠢,然后你只能看得进去不费脑子的东西,这些不费脑子的东西让你大脑兴奋,晚上睡不着,迫使你第二天继续熬夜看,然后让你第三天脑子变得更蠢,恶性循环。

长期下来,你会再也看不进去需要费脑子的东西,比如书,一看书就脑壳昏。

生活中遇到的不看书的人大多很蠢,爱不爱熬夜我就不知道了。

The quantity of spam is often larger than usual human behavior, if every event on nostr costs ⚡️, spam will be unaffordable and automatically vanish, the problem of nostr now is that signal or noise technically costs the same, this is unacceptable, making a relay that costs per post will be a solution.

#ValueForBehavior

所有的Web2、区块链都会成为nostr的客户端和中继器,不这么做只会死路一条,我希望看到更多的链整合nostr,我也喜欢看到Web2开通sign-in-with-nostr

但你三大商的月租、宽带、流量、话费、短信费总不是免费的吧😅

举一个不太好的例子,就是被人视为“世界计算机”的以太坊,它的用户也习惯了“先往地址充币”再“链上操作”的习惯。

你公交卡电话卡不也是同样的逻辑吗?毕竟信息的传输和人的传输都是要付出成本的,相较于Web2,nostr最大的区别是实现了信息资产所有权,这个成本对于“自我主权”这个收益是完全可以接受的

可以预见的未来,不部署按次收费功能的relay一定会因为内部熵增剧烈(垃圾信息轰炸,运营者疲于奔命)而消亡,而按次收费可以保持relay熵减和系统内部稳定。

这会成为常态,事实上,正常人类用户只会支付非常少的费用(不会超过三大运营商最低月租),即可助推协议产生自发秩序,以及拥有完全的信息资产的所有权,这点成本相对于“自我主权”这一点是非常便宜的

任何行为(event)写入中继器,必须付出成本,即支付闪电聪,这样才能助推nostr协议产生自发秩序。

在有机物当中,仅仅只是引入atp便实现了更高级的生命形式。对于任何一个复杂系统,维持内部的熵减必须引入PoW机制,nostr作为一个复杂系统,仅仅只拥有zap功能是不够的,可期待的是未来会有中继器开始部署按次收费功能。

比如post一次10聪,点赞1聪(可以根据比特币购买力的上升逐步调低),每次行为都要付费给中继器才能将行为写入中继,中继运营者不再需要把精力浪费在关注、筛选垃圾信息上,也不在需要把精力放在算法和审核上面。自然界当中并不存在审核,一切皆是PoW。

任何人只要付了钱,写入区块链的任何内容都不应当被视为垃圾,同理,只要付了钱,任何写入中继的任何东西,也同样不应当被视为垃圾。

PoW消灭了垃圾信息,并非是让“价值判断上是垃圾”的信息消失,而是让“垃圾信息”这个概念本身消失,垃圾信息本质上是相较于内容长度,生产成本极低的信息,引入了PoW自然消解了这个属性。

任何PoW信息都是“信息”,没有垃圾不垃圾之分,仅靠自发秩序便可筛选,高质量信息自然会胜出,并不需要审核、算法、推送。

#ValueForBehavior

价值是主观的,比如很多人可能很喜欢媒体号,但在我眼中, #[0] 就是个发布垃圾信息的机器人,我基本上没看到有人转发或者评论,它的reaction数据非常惨,但它还是孜孜不倦。

然后你去它的官网,你搜索nostr的结果为零,这就很吊诡了,给我一种致力于在美国给美籍韩国人宣传朝鲜有多好的即视感,然而你在朝鲜却看不到关于美国的宣传,“结果为零”。

之所以垃圾信息泛滥是因为目前并非所有的客户端和中继器引入了PoW,月租和买断制是不够的,一个月租账号一个月生成一百万条垃圾信息和一个正常人类用户每月生成几千条(已经很多了)成本是一样的,这当然不合理。

最合理的收费实际上是按条收费、按次收费,引入 #[1]​ 的理念,所有的行为(event)必须付费,点赞、转发、评论、发布、全部需要收费,只有引入PoW才能完全遏制女巫攻击(垃圾信息轰炸)。

按次收费对于正常人类用户来说完全可以承担得起(曾经短信1毛一条的时代还记得吗),而垃圾信息追求轰炸(即频次和数量),那么会让机器人部署者快速破产,从而有效遏制。

P.S.让算法来反垃圾信息是完全错误的路径。

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不乐观

理论上nostr和闪电网络本质上是网络协议而不是区块链协议,网络协议整合任何公链这种事情本来就没有任何人可以阻止,我一直觉得以太坊整合nostr只是迟早的事情,只不过你很难在nostr上实现zap ETH功能😅