Oh cool thank you

Slightly rephrased question then:

Could nostr.band do this type of indexing in a couple years time, starting from zero? I’m wondering how we expect data persistence and rate limiting on relays to play out. Is a complete index of everything on nostr practical or even desirable?

https://nostr.build/i/nostr.build_4b1bd2c51d01a419b8e7ee0161ce309f223071caf585974ad1e725e857e8f4de.webp

PS for a listening bot check out https://github.com/davestgermain/nostr_bot

Are you using it because you’re on windows? I’ve been using its originator python-nostr

yes, good point, it’s unlikely most of these relays will have archived data anyway.

But this makes me think we will have a nostr “google” emerge that has events well indexed and will allow you to explore not just tweet like notes, but also blog posts, join markets etc. And probably bump things based on ad spots.

A lot of people think of nostr as twitter, but it’s really more like the web. From a social media perspective, reddit might actually be a better client model. Relatively isolated communities that cluster around certain relays

#[1]​ what do you think?

For someone coming to nostr in say a year, is the “entirety” of the network knowable?

Can someone just head to nostr.watch, for example, and just loop through every public/paid relay and ask for every single event? I would think the relays would close the connection before serving all that data right?

you need that apron, mom’s know

Ok, I listened to the podcast and reviewed the documentation for the two projects. I plan to use whirlpool to test it once my new node syncs.

Agreed that nopara doesn’t come across as very trustworthy. The sybil attack via the coordinator mixing was not something I was aware of, and agree that needs to be made clear as a huge trust assumption.

My feeling is that the chain analysis thing with Wasabi is usually misrepresented by critics. They’re a business protecting themselves from the liabilities of facilitating illegal activities. Govs don’t fuck around with that shit. I’m not going to judge them because I don’t know

their situation (family, jurisdiction, etc).

On the Samourai side, the obvious big thing is the sharing of xpubs. But I think that is fairly represented as a trade off.

Overall the ideal is to use join market like you said, and if that’s not a possibility Samourai would be my recommendation. But, I would also recommend Wasabi for someone who is really bad technically. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t agree at all. I think protocols like nostr can help. I think building knowledge about alternative internet infrastructure can help (meshnets and the like). And finally I find the “capitalism ruined the internet” assessment absurd. The collusion of corporations and governments is the problem. Not an economic ideology

Yes exactly

They are a threat to anyone who doesn’t understand bitcoin, which is most of the people I know IRL. That’s a big deal and it’s personal

I bet it’s good. I feel like it gives more control over the bread to cream cheese ratio. Imagining lox with this 🤔🤤

Do you toast them like that? Never heard of this

ok can you guys stop transacting?

I broadcasted a transaction at the fee market bottom and now its buried in the mempool

中继传输的笔记和其他内容

will definitely watch this lol

No, and here’s my rationale for evaluating ancient use of cannabis:

1) Weed is awesome

2) If there was weed around, lots of people would use it because it is awesome

3) If lots of people were using it, it would be well attested to in historical records

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Facts are facts, sure, but they don’t speak for themselves.

These are mostly studies showing that having a gun in your house puts the people residing there at increased risk of suicide, domestic violence, and accidental injury. Well…duh?

When someone says they want a gun for safety, they are obviously referring to safety from intruders. Or that they want proactive safety from government overreach.

If you want to actually find common ground, you can’t just talk past people like that.