Been getting them a lot in Amethyst too. I just turned off notifications for zaps. I already get them from WoS anyway.
What he said isnโt whatโs happening either. People are embedded full posts in these zapvertisements.
Blockstream doing it politely does not mean thatโs what this is or will be. https://nostr.build/av/179044dd3438f8fa58e12a34c5f333b20b5f2b5e6d7f31022beedbeeaf8a7f2c.mov
That's what I thought. Everything else I said still applies to that type of zapvertising. I'm really over this subject though. I hate ads and I feel like I've been tricked into advertising right now.
#Amethyst nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z Can you please add the ability to filter hashtags out of our feed?
If the advertising is the "buzz" then everyone subject to it is not getting paid. How many people have read about blockstream in the past week that didn't get zapped by them?
Look, I'm not going to waste any more of my time on this. I have been unwittingly sucked into this zapvertising fad and I am now going to ignore it now that I understand it better.
I don't know how you're getting that from what I said.
There's nothing wrong with them zapping, but that's all it is then. You all talk about zapvertising like it's some revolutionary thing, but it's literally just the same as every other zap. This buzz is almost certainly a one time thing, once other companies start zapping notes no one will give a shit.
You have the wrong idea what zapvertising is. nostr:npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n just zap notes they like, they never push any ads, people just talk about them when they got zapped and a buzz is created organically.
So I misunderstood what #zapvertising is. Apparently it's just a company zapping notes and you all won't shut up about it.
You have the wrong idea what zapvertising is. nostr:npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n just zap notes they like, they never push any ads, people just talk about them when they got zapped and a buzz is created organically.
Seriously if this is what zapvertising is you all are a bunch of tools. Are you really going to sell out for 21 sats? This "organic buzz" has permeated my feed for several days and all it is is a company zapping some notes without even saying anything? Lame.
You have the wrong idea what zapvertising is. nostr:npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n just zap notes they like, they never push any ads, people just talk about them when they got zapped and a buzz is created organically.
So they are paying people that I follow to advertise for them? I like that even less.
Who doesnโt like nostr:npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n Zapvertising? They are giving you free sats ๐
I don't have a problem yet because it's not that intrusive, but in general I despise advertising. I think people are just thinking about the future when nostr becomes a larger audience and advertisers see a big opportunity to reach people and what that could look like. What if there were 50 zapvertisements on a popular post and you wanted to see who had zapped not for advertising? You would still have to look through the ads even though you didn't get zapped directly.
You don't get to choose how people interact with your notes on #nostr. That would be censorship.
I always hated how someone could block you on Twitter and prevent you from commenting or even seeing their content. Once you put words out into the world they are no longer yours to control. You can't control how people react to them. You can't take them back or make people forget you said them. They become public domain.
Likewise you can't make people listen either. If someone doesn't want to see you in their feed that is their choice, not yours. If you don't like what nostr:npub1jg552aulj07skd6e7y2hu0vl5g8nl5jvfw8jhn6jpjk0vjd0waksvl6n8n is doing with zapvertising then block them! If advertising of any kind becomes a too big of a problem then choose a client that blocks them for you. You do not have to suffer from ads if you don't want to. Choosing not to listen to someone is not censorship, it's freedom.
I can't stand the likes vs zaps debate. I think like are very valuable in their own way.
Advertising will probably get really bad if nostr grows into a larger audience. Most likely clients will find ways to filter out ads for you eventually. Otherwise nostr will become unusable.
I think you're touching on a good point about advertising in general. As nostr grows and becomes a larger audience it is going to attract all sorts of crap.
At the end of the day it's not up to you how people interact with your post. It will come down to what other users choose to allow show up in their own feed. There will be some clients that will filter out advertisements and other content and some that don't. People who don't want to see ads for drugs will choose the ones with filters that block them. People that do want drug ads will choose other clients, and you shouldn't be worried about what they see because that is their choice.
What part of permissionless don't you understand?
Yeah, are illegal drugs pictures ok in the comments?

This is a good one. A lot of people ignore trade offs while trying to maximize for something. I've been trying to figure out my self custody setup recently and had to ponder a lot the trade offs between protecting myself from theft vs accidental loss. I've been finding that for some things, like multisig, they are inversely correlated.
What I did is opened a channel with Phoenix for about 2m sats for larger purchases on lightning. As I spend I refill the channel with Strike. I then also use WoS for zaps and refill that from Phoenix.
"Best" is really dependant on your situation, what you plan to use it for and what trade offs you're willing to make for convenience vs control. If you are trying to get larger amounts into lightning you'll probably want to run your own node.
1 and 2 are my top two as well! Though I never thought to back up my Phoenix wallet with BW. Do you just put your Phoenix seed in BW for easy access to the funds if the channel closes?
Trump finally got indicted on the classified documents. Do you think he can drag the trial out until the election? ๐
