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Deflation is only a problem in fiat economists minds that don't actually understand how anything in real life works. It actually is amazing and only brings prosperity to everyone in the long term by rewarding the savers and encouraging healthy investments.

Also, apparently terrorists passports are more firm and durable than steel as it is said that they were found undamaged casually laying on the ground đŸ« 

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Unknown origin? They bred mice, gave them measles intranasally, the mice developed all of the symptoms of measles and then the scientists isolated the virus in the lung tissue of the mice.

So are you also throwing out the field of genetic sequencing? The human genome has been sequenced as well, as has the neanderthal genome, resulting in a nobel prize.

Source is the CDC for the photo

https://phil.cdc.gov/details.aspx?pid=10707

Some links to explain how TEM works is on this page:

https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/105125

The photo is not supposed to show the virus in isolation, it is to demonstrate that we have the ability to identify the specific virus as a distinct entity. You can create as many hurdles as you like, but they will continue to be cope. You use this cope to "prove" your theory with no evidence that something else causes measles infections.

Remember evidence of issues with certain supposed viruses does not equal evidence that all viruses do not exist.

> Unknown origin?

Yes, they only say that “CAM/RBH strain and the wild-type wtF strain were kindly supplied by S. Niewiesk, WĂŒrzburg, Germany. The wild-type Chicago-1 strain was kindly supplied by D. Griffin, Baltimore, Md.” without any links to further information about how those supposed strains were originally isolated and their pathogenicity proven.

> gave them measles intranasally, the mice developed all of the symptoms of measles

They only say “natural respiratory route has a limited propagation”, which in my guess means that they were unsuccessful in propagating the supposed virus naturally. As for the brain injections they say that half of the mice died after they *injected* supposed viral sample coupled with a buffer solution *straight to their brain*. Duh. Obviously, they did not perform any controls of injecting only buffer solution to the brain, because it would show the same results as the supposed virus.

> then the scientists isolated the virus in the lung tissue of the mice

This is blatantly not true. They never did isolation, only did meaningless PCR sequencing.

Genetic sequencing is a separate large topic, but it also has a lot of problems. Regarding PCR testing used by virologists to determine viral infections, it is not a proper way to use this technology whatsoever. The creator of PCR, Kary Mullis (Nobel Prize winner if that matters to you) said it himself multiple times. And it definitely does not constitute in any way a proper substitute for actual isolation.

As expected the photo that you provided comes with the complete lack of any documentation regarding it. For all we know it can show a particle from a freshly created turd by the scientists that made the photo. It is absurd to use it in any serious manner whatsoever.

> The photo is not supposed to show the virus in isolation, it is to demonstrate that we have the ability to identify the specific virus as a distinct entity.

This is a complete nonsense. You cannot prove the existence of a virus (or identify it), without isolating it and properly proving that it is contagious. This is just getting silly, some random photo of some random particle is not a proof of anything. This is elementary school level logic, I don’t know how any grown man could argue otherwise in good faith.

It seems to me that the only one coping is yourself, and the only ones weaseling words are the supposed virologists who somehow manage to completely change definition of simple words and totally avoid doing any proper control experiments (which is unheard of in real science).

It is not me trying to prove some theory. It is all the people claiming that some microscopic independent particles exist that are able to make anyone sick. And they have never properly done it even a single time throughout the whole history. All the field of virology is just one gigantic fraudulent cope.

I said “scientific” isolation in a sense that it should be confirmed by proper control experiments. Did you even read the 2nd link? It literally lacks all the necessary steps and just takes some random samples of unknown origin. It says so itself, it is not like I just randomly come up with all of this.

> how exactly do we have the genomic sequence of the virus without getting it in its “pure or free state”?

Now, that’s a very good question. You are starting to dig in the right direction with it. The reality is that those sequences are half characterisations of a genetic soup consisting of hundreds if not more random particles and other cellular waste, and half just purely theoretical generations of a specific computer software used by virologists.

Regarding the photo of the supposed measles “virus” that you just sent, what is the source with all the documented processes conducted to make that image? Again, what is the proof that the pictured particle is contagious in any way? But even just by looking at it you can see there is some other genetic material around it in the sample đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

I am not sure you understand the term isolation in relation to so called virology. From the Merriam-Webster dictionary: “to isolate is to separate from another substance so as to obtain pure or in a free state”. So they have to collect samples of bodily fluids from supposedly infected persons, then using various techniques separate the viral particle from all other cellular waste in the samples. Then when it becomes the only thing left in the sample in its purest form, it needs to be properly characterised. And finally it has to be scientifically proven to be contagious which must include conducting proper control experiments.

The last paper you sent does nothing of the sorts. It just takes some supposed viral samples (who knows how they were originally obtained) from 3 different sources and basically just injects them straight to mice brain. Which personally I think is completely pointless animal cruelty. What is interesting, the authors themselves write that they could not make any mice sick by natural means of propagation, only with brain injections. Duh đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž

Amazing to hear. I myself have been going between 18:6 and 21:3. Has greatly improved my overall health in many aspects.

This is a link to a number of papers, most of which are behind a paywall. But from what I can see, they did not perform an appropriate scientific isolation (according to the dictionary definition of the word isolate) and did not conduct experiments proving the contagiousness of the supposed virus (which cannot be done without first actually preforming isolation and characterising the “viral” particle). I am not even talking about the complete lack of any controls preformed. If you want, you can select a specific paper and we can discuss it further in detail.

Well, for all practical purposes the same level of privacy in Bitcoin base layer as in Monero will inevitably destroy its original value proposition of provably incorruptible network.

The way I see that image, it compares privacy level between a simple privacy tool that is unsuitable as SoV, and Bitcoin the ultimate store of value. So to me it seems that it makes an assumption that whoever uses Monero as a privacy tool also needs to use it as SoV in order to practically achieve higher level of privacy. Maybe that’s just me.

I highly suggest all males to try intermittent fasting in any of its forms. Humans are not designed to constantly eat all the time throughout the day. Reasonable fasting is very healing in many ways. Just be sure to consume actually nutritious foods, not industrially produced junk or solely plants.

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*“Any of the small number of actually useful advances that were by chance funded through government theft and coercion would have been made anyway in a free market if they are indeed beneficial. In fact, they would probably be made earlier and cheaper if not for continuous government interventions in the first place.”*

Way to generalize and make bold claims without advancing a sliver of proof.

**Maybe** SpaceX breakthroughs would have been made “earlier and cheaper” without the government interventions. But how do you prove it?

The reality is that space launch advancements were stalling for over 30 years before SpaceX was created. NASA and government contractors were still receiving funding, but nothing happened. SpaceX received government funding, too, and something good happened. This is a fact. What you say cannot be proven, so it’s irrelevant.

*“cheap launches” are only cheap because of all the government funding provided beforehand. If you account for it won’t be so cheap anymore.**

You’re saying SpaceX launches wouldn’t be cheap without government funding. So let’s imagine you remove all funding from the equation (because its competitors also get government funding), it would still the cheapest option just because of the law of physics and economics. When you recover your boosters after each launch, it will cost less to launch again, all else equal.

*Also, you might want to look up what % of SpaceX launches are paid for by private companies. Hint: it’s minuscule, and those private companies themselves are mostly private only in name as SpaceX is itself. As of October 2022, out of 38 launches listed in their active launch manifest 33 were paid by government entities, others were SpaceX own launches.*

I don’t know what line of reasoning you are using when you say SpaceX and other private companies are “only private in name”. I don’t think Elon Musk is a government agent, and I don’t think these other companies should be, either.

As for the launches breakdown, SpaceX serve governments and private entities. We can agree on the fact that satellites launches are used a lot by government agencies (for war and espionnage which we don’t necessarily want, but also for science and everyday’s comfort like weather, GPS
). I think that there would be more opportunities to create private companies looking to launch stuff in space in a free market.

*As for Starlink, if it was indeed a feasible idea it would be funded by private funds regardless. But something tells me it isn’t and other land based communication technologies are way more efficient.*

Again, if “something tells you it isn’t”, please ask something to advance proofs.

AFAIK SpaceX is selling Starlink, mostly to non government entities, so there must be demand for it.

*To sum up - all those fiat funded government directed investments are distorting free markets by allocating resources inefficiently and thus making it harder for the actually useful innovations to emerge. Which is a net negative for humanity.*

On that we agree. But if I may, I assume that if you’re writing long forms to discuss a matter, you must be trying to convince someone else that your ideas are “superior” to his/hers.

I don’t think framing issues in black and white, advancing arguments without proofs, and considering everything that the government touched “bad” or “would have been made faster, cheaper and better” will get you much attention or credit outside of the hardcore libertarian crowds.

And I don’t think dissing one of a few “lucky draw” from government funding is a good idea either, as they are way more obvious targets for that.

If you can get your point across by picking the lower hanging fruits, like fiat healthcare, fiat food, etc
 Once people realize that, they’ll also realize that the government could be shrinked a bit first and how that would lead to better outcomes for them
 and after seeing it then they would want to shrink it even more until we reach the best outcome.

> Way to generalize and make bold claims without advancing a silver of proof.

I am just stating logic - any interference in the free markets results in all kinds of disbalances and inefficiencies which in turn stifles real innovations. If someone has to provide proof, it is people who claim that state interventions somehow boost such a complex and mostly randomly happening phenomena as innovations in any way, shape or form.

> Maybe SpaceX breakthroughs would have been made earlier and cheaper without the government interventions.

Most probably they would have not been made at all, because 99% of space “advancements” are completely useless in real day to day life of people on earth and are simply a waste and misallocation of scarce resources.

> SpaceX received government funding, and something good happened.

This is an extremely biased personal opinion. The fact is that good happened only to the people who directly benefited from the government theft and pocketed a lot of stolen money. In all other practical aspects only bad happened - money was stolen from individuals and used to buy up resources that would otherwise be available for real innovators and useful businesses that actually make peoples lives better.

> I don’t know what line of reasoning you are using when you say SpaceX and other private companies are “only private in name”.

I am using logic and just being completely honest with myself. SpaceX received billions in subsidies, and it is a business that completely relies on continuously flowing billions from government contracts. For all practical purposes it is a government funded and run business.

> AFAIK SpaceX is selling Starlink, mostly to non government entities, so there must be demand for it.

AFAIK SpaceX is a highly subsidised company, only really living off government contracts, selling Starlink equipment at a loss. Remove all of that and see how much the real costs would be and then see if there is still any demand left for it. I highly doubt it.

> I assume that if you’re writing long forms to discuss a matter, you must be trying to convince someone else that your ideas are “superior” to his/hers.

To be honest, I don’t really care if you or anyone else I correspond with is going to change their opinions. For me, it is more about putting the truth out there for people to see, and create some content for my followers to consume as well. Plus this kind of discussions also bring some (even if little) visibility and help new people to discover my account.

> I don’t think dissing one of a few “lucky draw” from government funding is a good idea either, there are way more obvious targets for that
 like fiat healthcare, fiat food, etc.

First, I genuinely don’t think that SpaceX and Starlink are in any way a “lucky draw”. To me it’s just a waste of stolen resources on something that is largely useless to the humanity as a whole and by its nature is net negative as I explained before. Second, don’t worry, I will gladly dunk on other government fuelled destructive industries such as the ones you mentioned and others on top. It is just that I saw this particular discussion happening and decided to chime in with my 2 cents of truth and create a little bit of content for my followers, as I already mentioned before.

I completely support you on shrinking government 👍 Ideally, it should be shrunk until it disappears completely into the void.

Or maybe as “a source familiar with the matter” you happen to know of any properly documented cases of virus isolation and proof of its contagiousness? Would be interesting to see if you know of any.

I don't think Christian Eriksen actually died that time, but it sure looked like it 🙃 A lot of players in smaller clubs all over the world were not so lucky to be timely brought back from dead, if you look at the numbers it is actually crazy.

This is not accurate, unless you expect people to hodl a shitcoin with unverifiable supply and relatively weak fundamentals. In the realistic case you still need anonymous on and off ramps to Monero which poses practically the same problems as in the case of Bitcoin.

I didn’t make this image. It does not compare US to any other states, it simply illustrates to people that even the most “advanced” and “moral” western government is still regularly bombing defenseless citizens in other countries. Should make them question themselves on why they are not publicly outraged about these acts of terror committed by their government en masse.