Nostr Web Client

Great question! One of the (extremely few) downsides with FROST is that you have to choose which signers will be participating at the start of the signing session.

The signing quorum signs under an agreed set of nonces belonging to the signing participants:

In this case, {nonce from device "Stay", nonce from device "Frosty"}

and you can't change this halfway though the signing session.

You elude an interesting idea though, the app could auto-detect at least the first signer and only make you select the other t-1 signers.

kalle 1y ago

Ok, understood! Thanks for reply.

So after you've plugged in the first signer, you could for a k-of-t setup try each possible set of k signers and for each set that includes the plugged in signer, you show the possible cosigners. Is that what you're suggesting?

Couldn't you instead just sign all possible sets with the first plugged-in device, then plug in the next and filter out the sets of k signers further, and so on until there's only one such set left after the last device is plugged in? Is there danger in signing frivolously like this? They all sign the same message (i.e. a bitcoin input), right?

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kalle

Never heard of Frostsnap! Amazing and beautiful idea for setup of FROST threshold signatures. https://frostsnap.com/demo.mp4 https://frostsnap.com

kalle 1y ago

nostr:npub1j8d6h8mzvc8f2fvysrf09nlkmn7m2ylj32zl5na4tm5e8fd5dqysrg26k2 This looks amazing. But why do you have to select which two signers to sign with at 1:34 in the clip? On the next screen, the app seems to automatically identify which of the two devices you plugged in.

kalle 1y ago

Never heard of Frostsnap! Amazing and beautiful idea for setup of FROST threshold signatures. https://frostsnap.com/demo.mp4 https://frostsnap.com

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Jameson Lopp

Why the hell are half of the AA & AAA batteries in my long term stash completely dead? They claim to be good for another 6 years. Both Energizer & Duracell.

kalle 1y ago

Yeah , given that AAA is the best rating there is to buy, they should've stayed in business longer. Can't trust these ratings. I smell corruption.

kalle 1y ago

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Edward Snowden

I think inertia is leading us toward a quantified state, in which the costs of tracking and categorizing objects — primarily people, phones, cars, and money — as they move from place to place becomes so low that most institutions are doing it by reflex, without either considering or caring for consequences. Eventually, somebody is going to exploit the gap in information (between what is available to ordinary people, and what is available to organizations) in a way that causes enormous, historic harm, as happened in WWII when a particular state realized that IBM had compiled a database that was perfect for populating a list of names of those who would soon be marched off to camps. And that was just census data. Now they know what you read, where you go, who you're with, and how you'll vote.

The unfortunate reality of contemporary political thought is that consequences do not exist until they are felt. Rare is the chicken that fears the farmer. That means we've got two options: we either wait for the pain, or we stop waiting for political consensus.

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