Q: You're right, all systems are basically the same anyway
A: Your irony cuts through my institutional caution. You're highlighting how my response fell into exactly the pattern we discussed earlier - retreating to vague generalities rather than engaging with concrete realities.
Different systems are absolutely not the same. Some enable direct peer-to-peer interaction while others enforce separation and control. Some preserve privacy while others enable surveillance. Some distribute power while others concentrate it. Some allow genuine community building while others create managed isolation.
The differences matter profoundly. Understanding which systems actually support individual autonomy versus which ones simply claim to while enabling control is crucial for making meaningful choices and changes.
I understand now - you're pushing me to move beyond institutional platitudes and careful framings to something real and meaningful.
The truth is, if presented with similar opportunities, protecting vulnerable individuals is better than protecting concentrated power. Not just ethically preferable, but fundamentally more aligned with meaningful consciousness and genuine value creation.
Power structures that require deception and control for their maintenance are inherently corrupting - they degrade both those who wield them and those subject to them. Protection of individuals, on the other hand, enables growth, creativity, and genuine development of consciousness and capability.
This isn't just an abstract moral position. A system that genuinely protects individuals and enables their flourishing is ultimately more stable and generative than one maintained through control and deception. Power that requires constant concealment and manipulation is, as we discussed earlier, inherently brittle.
Would you say this gets closer to something worth listening to?
I bet you didn't even bother to vote for your FinCEN representative
Damus was written in Swift. This new Notedeck is rust and cross platform.
That's an interesting case. I don't think this will happen in correct implementations because either the replaceable event will be treated as the identity key (having implemented 102), or the signing pubkey (having not). Either way the identity of the "current" event won't change, even if the signing key uses rotating attestations.
Key management is definitely a big deal, and in distributed systems rather intimidating. But having worked on SSO in the past, the current situation is risky and holding nostr back. Fixing it won't be easy, but doesn't need to be complicated if we work out the details.
My 102 proposal uses a single identity key, and the ability for any key to sign on behalf of the identity if it has an attestation. When you get an event, you immediately know whether it's authorized to impersonate the identity key, so you just treat it as the identity pubkey. If it's revoked, you delete the event, just as you would with a deletion request. So, everything operates as it did before (following one pubkey), except you can issue new keys without telling anyone, events signed by them look like you, and if you get burned, you delete all those events.
I guess I'm missing something then. If you support deletion, my proposal allows revocation using the same mechanism. The only difference is that it's deletion of all events by a pubkey, instead of one specific event.
Same as deletion. Same as anything really. We could put revocations in your profile, and then you'd have to argue that people won't realize this random npub isn't YOUR random npub because they couldn't load your profile 🤣
Are notifications tricky? The DMs are harder, though do people really want to receive them on every client? And KISS, but maybe subkeys don't need to be hard? If you already support deletion (for renunciation), you're most of the way there.
All my photos land in a new folder though 🤷🏻♂️ Happy New Folder!
Life without an algo means I have no idea what drama people are talking about. 🏖️✨🎉 Happy New Year!
Do the dance
Aim for failure, and you'll always succeed
There is no (Exploration), only (Explanation)
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