And before calling anyone a self-serving failure, he might have thought about what the person actually did for the community for free. These kind of people jump to conclusions because they want their orange-glasses to be true. It actually disgusts me to hear this.
I've goddamit made podcasts, blogs presentations while I was ill, combined 3 jobs, the moment I was recording a podcast while getting the call that my close family member was dying, I realized what fool I was to work for this.
So yeah, calle ME self-serving, by someone who doesn't know me and didn't even properly read the whole article is a bit of a typical thing I'll remember next time any grifter in bitcoin ask me why I don't work for the community anymore. I'll refer to Mr. buy-me-a-carrot. (and I'm sure he's a nice dude in real life, at least he makes and creates something from what I can see, usually these kind of comments come from the biggest self-serving losers who never did anything for bettering bitcoin anyway, unless they could have 5$ kickback on some referral link or something 😉
The MiCa rules,... The ones I've been covering for 3 years on my podcast and such.. and where no one had any opinions about in the EU until they have to take this moronic test. :)
Is anyone keeping track, using on-chain analytics, of how many people are doing this idiotic EU "satoshi test"? E.g, Kraken describes the procedure here, presumably other exchanges use variants, which makes for great fingerprinting.
https://support.kraken.com/hc/nl/articles/what-is-a-satoshi-test
I can't imagine doeing that.
The EU enemy is datamining enough as it is'
Someone at a conference last year asked me out of the blue "what do you sell?".
And I looked at him and said "Nothing"
Then then conversation never recovered.
I saw that person back later that year, and he was rolling a joint on the floor.
Some anekdotes in the bitcoin space are telling.
😉
I agree with many parts of it, but am a bit surprised that you keep this stance together with 'no sponsors'.
I doubt podcasters sponsored by nostr:nprofile1qqs9500z3l7sn46sdnls5fnjm0d3lqmrq7707qshes2y7j8pnm4rllcfc0kcc or nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qpq88x98j0r7l2fszeph6j7hj99h8xl07n989pskk5zd69d2fcksetqtrfcre or whoever understands that today good content needs to be supported (even if doesn't bring measurable marketing results), compromise their souls on being sponsored. Isn't it also #value4value, but more b2c-like?
I know you don't have an answer and focused here on the critique (frustration soaks through lines), perhaps noone has... and each of content creators, distributors, consumers chooses their way of monetization and reaching out.
I don't think anyone claims that #value4value can totally replace other models, or that will largely kill ads, sponsored content, clickbaits. But it's nice that there is one more method of distribution / monetization / relationship consumer - creator. Years ago you had to go through some licensed institution to make reach and money.
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We had short discussion about it with nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj76r99eex2mrp09skymr99ehhyecpzemhxue69uhkjmnzdauzumn0wd68ytnhd9hx2qpqmrmu3s5889zcaqcqwxejx8gtkp9rwna7fq0vqezk4x22rnpr2gms0sctx3 recently, who through hard work, dedication and lots of content can make a living out of podcast. I'm sure backdoor deals, increased network, brand, recognition (which brings other fruits later) conference tickets and hardware freebies play a role there, and it's great.
To reply purely on the sponsors stance: in my specific situation it's not doable. I'm in the "Bitcoin North-Korea" of Europe (Belgium) and make a podcast (and other things) for the local community.
There's close to no 'market' anyway for any sponsors to address, and on top of that, I don't want that hassle (sooner or later you'll have to walk a fine line when talking about that product or service).
Imagine having Celsius Network as a sponsor back in the day...
I get that this critique is not true for everyone everywhere, if you find good sponsors and you're doing fine.
I think the only viable solution for now is getting 1/4th out for free, and the rest on a paid, separate stream that can be paid in fiat (or bitcoin if technically possible).
I don't have the solution or answers in any case. But I hear and see questions and frustration about this model with other podcasters, artists and devs alike.
(and not all of them talk about it, for fear of coming over as self-serving or needy)
Nicely written and somehow argumented critique of #value4value (or rather, its overselling) by nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3vamnwvaz7tmwdaehgun9d35hgetn9ehhyee0qqsgvudxu5vg7ul8w3kv7rw3dxl55eu9gw9h9sfplqalllgylzqef5gujq8et .
Glad we have such voices in this space - a bit too full of patting in the back, repeating slogans, quick generalistic value judgements (orange=good) and vain good mornings
Please take a read 👇
https://allesvoorbitcoin.substack.com/p/why-value4value-in-bitcoin-is-a-scam
thanks for truly reading through my frustrations , the core message is the important part here. And if they want I invite anyone in this space to truly tell how they got rekt by working like this.
(and no, "look for a sponsor" is not always the answer, I wish it was that simple.)
PS; and if you don't agree, that's fine, just mind that I'm a human being, who's in this for a while now
Most personalities these days...

You not getting a carrot is Value 4 Value
I either react (I thanked you for going into it at least, instead of 90% of the b////s that just look away and act like the freeloading is NOT a problem in this community.-)
What you think of me only affects me as a bitcoiner, who tries to do his best. I appreaciate the comments, even if they're a proof of not getting the message and trying to brand me as self-serving.
I know what to do: I'll act like the large % of this community and sit on my ass, produce nothing and have criticism on anyone who dares to say, create or think anything.
If a thought about V4V is causing this much hate, I can understand why people flock to non-bitcoin projects, at least over there, people aren't calling each other losers for doing a blog post about a REAL problem in the community.
But I guess it's easier to shoot the messenger.
yeah, go eat a carrot
thank you for that, you're making me stronger in my belief that this model is broken, and you personally wiped out 3+ years of hard work (for free) from this "self serving loser"
have fun stacking sats
You prove me right, thank you...
Anti-fragility in bitcoiners here people 😉
oh and about this part of your reply: "identified nothing that is actually a scam" --> bitcoiners call everything a scam that's not bitcoin, ... if I call V4V a scam, you don't get the half-joke, half truth?
I explained the two parts of this actually, both parts feel scammed more often than not.
If I had named the piece "my failure as a rotten self-serving loser" you'd probably had liked it 😉
Does this person even have an npub? If not, then they have no authority to even begin to discuss v4v
hi, ... I have an npub yes this is me
Thanks for the more in-depth reaction (you're the first to actually react to the essence).
My reply:
"rather that they have not been immediately successful in" (eh, I've destroyed half my time and brain for this for years so... "immediate success" is not a factor here imho. And self-serving? "their position is questionable and likely self-serving" -->
eh, well, I leave that to people who know me, on how self-serving I am.
"Bitcoin makes it easier and is borderless" --> agree, so it should have a big advantage
The mix of monetization is nice, and I'd be happy to accept fiat as well indeed, I'll look into possibilities to make it more of a mix between the 100% free stuff I do, to maybe 40% free and the rest paid "content".
Or I might just quit interely and be done with being called self-serving, shady or other things I'm not. If I would be self-server I would shill you a shitcoin every single week.
Proof of stake is parasitic
Ask no money in exchange to inform ppl about Bitcoin :
'you must be shady' 'you're so 'covert'.
(True story btw)
Ask donations: 'I'm too cheap to pay, you still seem shady'
Ask ridiculous amount of money for 'consults' and 'invest' in the most blatant scams:
'Oh please, scam me some more, cool dude, and meet my family and take me out to dinner, I'll dress up real nicely'

