Are any people on Nostr not tribal, not haters?
That is specific a demo for a specific repo, for PKARR, so you can understand what it does. That is not an app or "Pubky."
Pubky is a strict upgrade to Nostr. Nostr can't adopt our changes without breaking everything and becoming Pubky-compatible.
This is incorrect. The graph is based on semantic metadata created by you and your peers.
We proposed our improvements to Nostr a year ago and they declined.
Why speak ignorantly about something relevant to you?
We use Mainline DHT, the most decentralized network on the planet,, as DND for Public Key Domains.
Hi nostr:nprofile1qqsgeksa4tajm7x673gq2v7t56dkgkh6pjhhzdhrgxlpke4za8jmmkqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgjwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejqetk0p4 I'm trying Bitkit and I like it too much, really a good sovreign lightning experience. I have some question I cant find answers in docs:
- Is a sort of "channel rebalamcing feature" planned? Cause open channels with multiple LSPs become very tedious if then I cant receive/pay specifically to/from a particular channel.
- Does Bitkit implement an automated full punishment system to react if our LSP is trying to cheat on us? Is, practically, all automatic, tested and secure to use?
- Are backups encrypted with our seed, like in phoenix wallet? In the docs its stated that "backup material is not sensible data", but it is: old channel states can be broadcasted and used to steal funds to users. It all should be encrypted, I think.
- Is the "automated channel created with Blocktank when we receive to lightning without enough inbound liquidity" trustless? Or do we need to trust blocktank until confirmation?
Is the channel creation started with user-onchian-funds trustless?
- Are bolt-12 and splicing support planned?
Thanks!
Hey, thanks for using Bitkit and for all the questions!
1. Not any time soon. We have discussed ways we could do it, but doing such things is tricky and we have lower hanging fruit.
2. The LDK node does enforce, but only while the app is open, so you need to be using it weekly to have a realistic chance of enforcing.
3. The wallet and channel state is encrypted on the client using the seed. We use AES/GCM which is pretty standard on mobile these days.
4. It’s trust-minimized. The invoice is a HODL invoice which is not claimed until the channel is opened.
5. No plans for BOLT-12, I believe changing payment protocols is disruptive and that it isn't a significant-enough change; we will reconsider if industry organically moves to it. We would love to support splicing, but LDK (Bitkit) and LND (Blocktank) still don't support it.
6. Yes, the backups include all channels, and should restore them in a new Bitkit wallet. However, you need to be very careful not to install the node on two live devices at the same time or it may corrupt the state. It should be noted that we cannot control what third-parties do, so it is possible that a migration could also result in some channel closures.
7. No plans to customize destination addresses for channel closures, but if it becomes something many users want we could revisit the idea.
You can't do micropayments without trust (centralization). Seems like a shitty venue for censorship resistance.
Algorithms arent the topic, Mr. Narrative Parrot.
Either you have an actual counterargument, or not.
Tipping is not a revolutionary concept, nor is it a tool for empowering individuals.
In fact, any economy that embeds tipping ends up regretting it and using it as a way to exploit naive workers to pay them less.
In social media, tipping(zapping) provides a very low-value, noisy signal, and is not very useful to people or algorithms for curation.
So, calm down about zapping and try solving real problems.
We aren't shoving anything, a no users are confused. It is just a bitcoin symbol and a quantity that is easy to infer.
If you read the BIP you will learn that this display method is accurate to the protocol and how Bitcoin actually works.
I only used it recently thanks to nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev
I know you don’t use the term sats, but rest of the world does. Sats are the standard.
Also, there are people working on sats symbol: https://satsymbol.com/
But the app is okay the way it is, right?
I don't see Nostr as a pure "bazaar" either. It’s a nuanced network with both ad hoc innovation and strong adherence to foundational concepts. But my analogy is more about ethos and how it expresses—community-driven chaos vs. intentional, centralized coordination.
What holds nostr together is a culture, not a structure or plan or goal.
As for protocols, I’d argue Pubky is all about protocols. PKARR, Mainline DHT, homeservers—these are building blocks for networks, not just products. If that's unclear in our docs, it's because we need to evolve them, but, quite honestly, if I can understand it, you can too.
Things will be clearer and more tangible once Pubky App is in public.
What you call perfectionism I call design requirements. We are building an ecosystem and comprehensive vision, made of multiple moving parts. Perfectionism has nothing to do with it. We are trying to build a whole new web, not an app, and not a playground of hackathon projects. And we are trying to do it with as little complexity as possible.
Building decentralized systems is more like designing the internet than choosing VHS over Betamax, or Twitter over Primal. You don’t get many chances to fix foundational errors later. I’m not aiming for “perfect”, I am aiming for viable, empowering and useful.
The vision is for an alternative digital society, The Atomic Economy, and I am taking the opportunity to build it very seriously.
Bitkit has been this way for more than a year and you didn't notice. We don't use the term "sats" or "satoshis" and there is no sats symbol.
All of Pubky is our NIP, if you think about it.
For now, we have higher priorities than trying to persuade uninterested Nostr-aligned people to drop it for our vision.
GM
nostr:npub1sk7mtp67zy7uex2f3dr5vdjynzpwu9dpc7q4f2c8cpjmguee6eeq56jraw latest pod with John Carvalho was interesting, with him throwing some shade at #nostr, although I didn't grasp the core of his criticism besides
1) it's just a cultural bridge from X mostly focused on #bitcoin
2) it's different than the Synonym products in some ways [that I didn't capture exactly how they are different and why that's worse for nostr]
3) there is some technical debt in nostr [unclear what exactly]
Would appreciate some further insight in how we could build better over in the nostrverse?
Cheers
1) Was a subtopic of generalizing how different platforms actually express and differentiate.
2) I/we didn't properly detail all of what Pubky is, but the main aspect we discussed is what makes it different, how we use PKARR & PKDNS to establish public-key-based domains, for actual censorship resistance and ability to manage your identity and sub-identities (or "sessions"). I encourage you to check out pubky.org and our code to learn more.
3) Nostr is disinclined to improve their identity situation to do what Pubky will do because it is a breaking change in the key type. So, they say other narratives to deflect from this strict improvement.
The people I actually spend time with are my family and my team. I feel blessed to have the opportunity that Tether and Fulgur Ventures have provided to us to build a new vision for digital society. I'm not sure what more I could ask for.
Sure, it'd be nice to not be so misunderstood by so many of my peers, but I never claimed to be amazing at persuasion. Being myself is the only thing that has never failed me, so things are what they are. I am always happy to see things improve, but I can't think of everything and improving at some things is more rewarding than others.
Specifically, I do think Marty and I jumped into some topics without proper setups, but the conversation was unstructured, so instead you got something more natural, I guess? haha, i dunno, we did a thing, I hope some people get something from it.
Caught up with nostr:npub1guh5grefa7vkay4ps6udxg8lrqxg2kgr3qh9n4gduxut64nfxq0q9y6hjy and we covered BIP 21Q, Pubky, digital identity and a lot more, check it out!
(The headline is clickbait, this is not a finance interview, we just did some speculating about what the big sacrifice could be this cycle!)
Maybe I can also help you with your ignorance about the meaning of "ignorant" , which is not an insult, even if it makes you feel bad.
I do not respect people that say incorrect things then act as is if they know better.

Bitcoin units are not divisible. When someone says "fractions of a sat" they are lying or ignorant.
