Yes it does include all of those, but you have to remember that they don't add, they overlap (a lot). For example, when Abraham was born, Noah was still alive. (Sorry my example is post flood. I was curious one day how long since Noah died when Abraham was born and was shocked to calculate that Noah was still alive when Abraham was born.)
Have at it.
I'm interested to see how you could possibly argue against several of my points, but I like having my beliefs challenged because I think it is important to know why you believe what you believe and, if wrong, to correct that belief.
At this point in my life and studies, because I have spent so much time in studying the Bible, it isn't often that my beliefs change significantly (although they are not infrequently tweaked.).
There isn't a gap anywhere between Adam and Abraham. There is a complete list of people saying when one person was born, the previous person was a certain age. Even if there were one or more skipped generations, that doesn't change the fact that the Father was the specified age when the son (or grandson) was born. The genealogies lead to a period when dates are known and can be continued. It isn't that it was 6,000 years between Adam and Noah. It has been about 6,000 years since Adam. The Bible is very specific.
It is very interesting to take the genealogies in a spreadsheet and see how they overlap and how the years match up. It helps you see how much time has gone by.
I can't know for sure. Only God knows for sure, but since Jesus is God and you deny His deity it doesn't seem that could be saving faith. I will say, that decision is up to God, not me, so I could always be wrong.
In John 10:30 Jesus says "I and the Father are one.”
Sounds like Jesus is saying He is God.
John 14:7-9 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? "
Jesus says knowing Him is knowing the Father and if you have seen Him you have seen the Father. This can only be true if they are one.
Even back in Genesis there is reference to the trinitarian nature of God. Genesis 1:26a says, "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness" God refers to Himself in the plural. There are lots of other similar references.
John 10:32-38 "Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.”
In this passage the Jews accuse Jesus of "blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” Jesus does not deny being God. He says He does His miracles "so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.” Jesus claimed to be God. If He isn't God, then He is guilty of blasphemy and can't save anyone. He doesn't allow people to think He is a good man, a prophet, or a teacher, but not God.
(John 1:1-4, 14-17) says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.... And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. John testified about Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me has a higher rank than I, for He existed before me.’ ” For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace. For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ. "
Do you disagree that these verses are a description of Jesus? It says that He "was with God" and "was God" and that "All things came into being through Him." (aka He is creator) John the Baptist also refers to Jesus as God when he talks of His higher rank and that Jesus existed before John (Other gospels say John was physically born first).
I'm not trying to make you feel bad or win an argument for the sake of winning. I just think the Bible doesn't allow us to believe Jesus is anything less than our God and creator.
I do agree that some people do get very hateful with people who disagree. I definitely don't hate anyone that disagrees with me. I care about the truth and want to help others.
I don't think you can have a saving faith in God if you don't believe God is creator, but there are lots of people who believe God created using the big bang and directed evolution to create or believe in the gap theory or the day age theory. I believe all of those are totally contrary to God's word, but that doesn't make their proponents unbelievers. That is not a salvation issue. (If you want my scriptural and scientific arguments, I can give them later).
In the same way, there are lots of different beliefs regarding the end times with some believing in a literal millennial reign (like I do) and some believing we are living in the millennial period now. Some believe in pre-trib, mid-trib, and post-trib. Only one can be right (I believe scripture clearly supports the pre-trib view), but these are not salvation issues and there are plenty of good Christians who disagree with me.
I do think that a right view helps you to live the life God intends for you and a wrong view hurts your witness and leads you to bad choices, which is why I am so vocal, but I hope my disagreements are not taken as disrespectful. I am passionate about God. I am passionate about truth. I am passionate about faith. Sometimes my passion may come across badly. I try to speak the truth in love as commanded by the Bible, but like everyone, I'm fallible and make mistakes.
The funniest was one year when we had a grasshopper infestation. We had fun catching grasshoppers and releasing them to the chickens. They went bonkers trying to eat the grasshoppers.
I'd argue that some doctrinal differences may be worthy of debate (because we always want to seek the truth not our personal preference), but some doctrinal differences make such a difference in what we believe that they are worth division.
Sadly, the deity of Christ is one of my "no compromise" doctrines. If you don't believe that Jesus is God, then you don't believe in the same God. If you don't believe He is God, you are denying your savior and creator and I believe you will be one of the people described in Matthew 7:21-23
"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’"
Some doctrines are critical to salvation and I believe the deity of Christ is one of them. Some doctrinal differences can have positive or negative influence based on whether they are truth or not, but do not influence whether we are a true, born-again Christian or not.
I want the best for you and am willing to spend time defending, using the Bible, the deity of Jesus and why it is so critical. I hope my disagreement will not cause you to withdraw and avoid contact. An honest debate can help us all to come to a greater understanding of the truth if we are all honestly seeking it.
I will pray that Jesus will reveal Himself to you.
The Apocalypse of Yajnavalkya
https://www.amazon.es/-/pt/dp/B0C1J2MLCN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=YILCB2Z48E7E
there's a couple of parts of this book i want to dig into more, and i think their hypothesis about the events related to the Great Flood are wrong (they say meteor strike from Taurids, and they also say that the race of angels, Tuatha de Danaan, the Aes Dana, the Angelic Host, or whatever you name them) now live out in that direction towards the Pleiades, but i don't think it was taurids... and they also talk about a proton/high energy particle blast from a star 400LY away they name "geminga" but that timing of 42000 years ago coincides with the Laschamp Event (just look it up) which is a geomagnetic excursion and roughly lines up with the ~25000 year cycle as the previous cycle peak, which means we are in for another peak and the 12000 year event was Noah
but it also says that they were here on earth, they built the great pyramids of egypt, back about 15000 years ago, before that swarm hit us, so, idk, now i know about geomagnetic excursions and i already recalled reading about pole shifts a long way back, the "total flood" scenario starts with a micronova and the rippling of the galactic current sheet - and after all that stuff is thrown off by the sun, then yes, over the subsequent 1200 years there would be clouds of meteors that eventually are gonna hit hard in that time, the period of history geologists call the Younger Dryas
it's written in a funny style, sorta like psychic medium but at the same time also is bristling with references like an academic text, but it was what pointed me to Enoch and Jasher and Jubilees and the 6000/12000/25000 year cycle (yuga cycle) and Vishnu Purana
and i have read bits and pieces of these things, not completed yet, but especially Enoch and Vishnu Purana i saw what this person writing it expressed in the book
anyway, just dropping the reference and the best understanding i have from my reading currently, combined with the apocrypha i have read, and i am convinced it is correct and that the "angels" are humans who lived here and achieved the technology and knowledge to migrate across the galaxy and they left a promise with Enoch they would come back and collect the humans who weren't evil... and when you keep that in mind and read Revelation and Genesis and Enoch it all starts to make a certain kind of very novel, interesting sense, one that i'm very inclined to believe in, it totally knits together so many things that previously were detached threads
My biggest problem with all of that is it doesn't line up with the age indicated in the Bible. If you use the genealogies that say what age the father was when each son was born, the Earth is only about 6,000 years old and the flood was approximately 4,500 years ago. None of the dates in that book agree with Biblical ages.
FYI, we can't know exact years because we don't know if someone was born on the first day of after a birthday or one day before they turned the next age. Also the Jews used to use a 360 vs 365 day year. I've also heard that they used to name ages solely based on the year of birth, so that causes weird rounding errors. Still, we should be able to get within 100 years of the right year. That doesn't allow tens of thousands of years, not if you believe the Bible is true.
I used to have chickens. I loved having chickens. I developed a lung allergy and had to chose between breathing and chickens, so I got rid of the chickens.
I've seen all of the loved ones who were destroyed by those who committed suicide and it breaks my heart what it does to those who loved that person: parents, kids, friends, spouses. There isn't anything more hateful that you can do to a loved one than commit suicide because it fills the loved one with guilt and remorse. I guess I care more about those left behind, that were destroyed by the suicider's actions.
I've also seen one suicide lead to another and lead to another. If the first suicide hadn't happened, neither would the others, so it causes great harm. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, but this is a problem that needs to stop and holding those who commit suicide up as saints makes those that are hurting more likely to commit suicide.
The Bible is clear about who was on the Ark: Noah & his wife, their 3 sons & their wives. I am not 100% certain on whether the human race had corruption (if so, probably Ham's wife) or if the human race was corrupted again after the flood.
After Ham looked at and mocked Noah's drunken nakedness, Noah cursed Ham:
"So he said,
“Cursed be Canaan;
A servant of servants
He shall be to his brothers.” (Genesis 9:25)
I always thought it strange that Canaan was cursed instead of Ham. One theory I heard was that Canaan was cursed because He had nephilim blood. That would explain why the Israelites were told to wipe out the Canaanite people later. It makes sense, but isn't explicit enough to be dogmatic about. Also, God doesn't make mistakes, so it makes me wonder why God allowed the corrupt blood on the Ark, so the corruption might have happened later.
The Book of Enoch (at least the early parts of it) seem to be real history and mostly accurate, but not inspired, so nothing in it can be taken as definitive.
I used to believe that the destruction of the nations by Israel was God destroying a people for being so evil. I was a little uncomfortable with that, but our creator has a right to do as He pleases. I have since come to believe it is more complicated than that. It is a purifying of the human race.
Genesis 6:4 states, "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown." These men were giants and were Satan trying to corrupt the human race to prevent Jesus from coming to Earth as savior. The nations in Canaan were also full of giants. I believe these giants were also nephilim (demon/human hybrids) and that is why God had the Israelites destroy them, man, woman, and child.
The global flood, as well, wasn't just about destroying the people whose "every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.," but was also to destroy the corruption of the human race.
This also matches many of the ancient myths and religions that talk about "gods" coming down and fathering children with women. Since every person on Earth descended from Noah, they would all descend from people who had knowledge of these events.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Instead of people saying good things about those who commit suicide, we all need to speak the truth. They are selfish people who hurt everyone around them. Suicide is not only foolish, it is hateful and harmful to everyone who cares about them.
Yes, a gun can help even the playing field, but it is better if the cops don't have to shoot someone. A strong looking cop is much less likely to get in a physical altercation. A woman is likely to shoot first and ask questions after.
Agree on the likeable characters (don't have to be perfect) and the generally good triumphs over evil (but not necessarily a fairy tale ending where the hero gets everything they wanted and the villain is absolutely destroyed)
Agree on character development.
I like those who truly create a whole new world, culture, lifestyle like J.R.R. Tolkein or Isaac Asimov. They aren't just the same thing in a sci fi background or a fantasy background. They aren't just a bad copy of somebody else's world. Both created something that had never really existed before. I know that is a hard act to follow.
We typically learn and grow the most in hard times. We get lazy and even digress in good times.
I know it sounds confusing, but yeah, I believe in the Bible and the Book of Mormon, but I don't believe that the modern Mormon church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is led by God. They teach a lit of good and true things, but there are many other doctrines they teach (that there's a living prophet today, that the church has God's authority, that men will have the option to have many wives after this life, etc) that I simply do not believe.
There's a fallacious argument that's often taught (I know I've taught it a lot), which says that if the Book of Mormon is true, then the church that believes in it, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, must also be true. While I agree that the only logical way that the Book of Mormon can even exist is if Joseph Smith was given a gift from God to translate them, that has absolutely no bearing on the rest of Joseph's life, or the question of whether he continued to be a true prophet, whether Brigham Young was supposed to take over after him as a true prophet, or whether the LDS church is still run by prophets that talk to God today.
After carefully studying the original documents on https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/ , I've arrived at the opinion that there's no other way that Joseph could have produced the Book of Mormon, other than by the power of God. I also found writings that I believe to be real revelations to him from God. However, I also found many such revelations that were altered by Joseph and others in the years following their being given. Joseph had many weaknesses, like the tendency to attempt to take power into his own hands, rather than relying on God (like when he searched for buried treasure to help finance his new floundering church, or when he created his own bank notes for the same purpose (he was basically shitcoining ~170 years before crypto existed), or when he ran for mayor of the biggest city in Illinois, or when he ran for president), but the weakness he's blamed for most by the modern LDS church, polygamy, was definitely not one of them.
So I have quietly believed for many months now that Joseph really translated the Book of Mormon, really received other revelations, but was still a very flawed human being, just like all of us. I also, discovered, though, that the LDS church was infiltrated and taken over by some of the most evil people around at the time: Brigham Young, John Taylor, Willard Richards, and others. And the church has been lost and falling away ever since.
I hope that clears up the confusion!
I applaud you move in the right direction in respect to Jesus Christ. I would give you these passages relating (I think) to the Book of Mormon
"8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!" (Galatians 1:8-9)
"I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book." (Revelation 22:18-19)
I would argue that the Book of Mormon is not from God, but from man and that you need to use only the Bible in your search for truth and faith in God.
God bless you and enlighten you with truth and faith and the love of God and His son Jesus through the power of His Holy Spirit.
Anyone who says, "This is right for me." instead of "This is what God says." is guilty of putting themselves as god before the God and Creator. They are guilty of idolatry.
Sadly, I think there will be a bunch of people who consider themselves to be Christians, but they are solely cultural Christians and they will hear these sad words.
"21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’" (Matthew 7:21-23)
There are tons of people who take the parts of Christianity that they like and dump the rest. They don't treat God as sovereign Lord. They decide what is right for themselves instead of trusting what God says is right. Anyone who choses right and wrong for themselves instead of trusting God's commands, is not a true Christian and won't receive forgiveness, God's presence, nor heaven.
When you can view the world through all three processes, you can really find the truth.
GM.
Love the ASL. I used it with both of my kids when they were little, especially my son with Down Syndrome. He had issues speaking and sign language allowed him to share his needs and prevent a lot of melt downs.
My eldest took ASL as his "foreign language". When he was having his braces put on, we had a conversation even though he couldn't move his mouth. It was slow going because when I didn't remember the actual sign, he would spell it, but I am slow, translating letter signs to letters, then picturing it in my mind, so I can read it and know what he signed.
We've got some friends who are missionaries. The wife councils sex trafficking victims and the husband mentors men trying to escape pornography. They did a conference at our church and I was shocked to know how prevalent they both are including the use of pornography in church going men.
Make sure you keep ingesting some fiber and prebiotics. I think that would help a lot.
On the other hand, I lost ~50 lbs that I really needed to lose and it wasn't difficult, so I understand the love of eating that way.
As a small business owner of an S Corp, when we have a good year I owe more in taxes than my entire salary, so yes, I very much pay taxes.
Personally, dealing with hair dye is way too much work. It doesn't seem too bad when you have just a little gray, but once you start really going gray, you have to keep up with it or you have terrible looking roots. Then if you decide to stop after you are near full gray, you look horrible for a year or more.
I've never used hair dye and never will. I'll admit I'm probably going gray slower than many, but I have better things to do with my time and money.
The bad things for people like you that have black hair, is the grays really show. The good thing is they almost always go a beautiful silver. Those of us with lighter hair don't show those few scattered grays when they first appear, but tend to have dull, dingy gray/off-white hair once it goes full gray.
I'd say embrace it. Claim your wisdom gained through a few years.
Looks like a nice setup. Do you move it regularly to keep them on grass?


