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There is no way to force a man to be free. Freedom always comes from within.

Hello fellow plebs. What's your BTC noob story? Let me share mine first to kickstart it:

In 2013 I was in (local equivalent of middle/high) school and mined just out of curiosity ca 1.5btc on my (even then) prehistoric computer.

I deleted the wallet and everything else to have space on disk for Minecraft and League of Legends just a couple months after that.

Then I completely forgot about Bitcoin until 2017 when I was loudly arguing, that the price is just a bubble and I won't buy anything out of FOMO.

I felt incredibly vindicated and forgot about btc once again only to eventually learn more and finally give in in 2020.

Then due to financial troubles I had to sell most of it in 2022 close to the bottom below $20K.

Feel free to share your own royal fuckups to make me and others feel better.

I don't really see a PWA as much of a win over a native app. Also notifications and crashes are the less important ones. The main issues I have are the UI (on Amethyst) and lack of relay config options. (on Plebstr)

Thanks for the tip tho. Once I have thoroughly tested Iris I might give the PWA a spin too.

Hello fellow Nostriches. I am in search of a worthy client that can manage to do the following:

- Allows me to configure which relays I read from and which I post to both generally and ad hoc per note

- Allows me to filter the feed by relays (and hopefully more)

- Works more that it crashes

- Has functional zaps (on Android is good enough for me)

- Has functional notifications

- Has a UI that is not aneurysm inducing

- Is not proprietary

Is a client like that out there somewhere or does any client aim to provide all of this soon? (Or at the very least the relays stuff) Or do I have to write my own client to have all that? (And if I do, is there someone who would appreciate such a client and would like to help in making it a reality?)

All info and help will be greatly appreciated.

Plebstr. Predominantly because it was the first I tried.

Amethyst has some great features, but really terrible and cluttered UI.

Primal feels really smooth. I am looking forward to it being in stable

And I am eyeing Iris, but haven't gotten to trying it out yet.

However I would love to find one, that has working notifications, doesn't crash all to often, can actually work with relays and has a UI, that isn't trying to murder me.

Well, the preface is good, but the end here doesn't match.

Doubting the entire concept of intellectual property is perfectly valid, the only problem here is that not everybody has the right knowledge and debate skills to defend such a difficult position to defend as most people resist it more or less for the reasons you listed.

Before I go deeper into it, let me clarify what I am defending and what I am attacking. I am saying that:

- Intellectual property (IP further) is a misnomer, because it does not meet the criteria of a property

- IP itself is unenforcible without a monopoly on violence.

- IP is a suboptimal way of protecting bad business models and practices

- IP often hinders progress and leaves us poorer than we would be without it.

- Opposing IP is not objectively morally wrong, it may even be morally right.

It's funny you should mention Linus Thorvalds in defense of IP. The guy, who made his life's work free to access, use, modify, distribute and even sell for everybody and never, afaik, published anything under a copyright or similirly strict license.

Ok, this is already much too long, so let me do it this way: Please pick, which of the statements above you do not agree with or which need further explanation. I'll go over the argumentation of each of the selected statements. Or maybe I can recommend you works of Stephen Kinsella, who does the critique of IP way better thsn I do. You can find his argumentation on YouTube. (just look for "Stephen kinsella intellectual property")

First of all, I would like to appreciate the amount of time and energy you have onvested into a polite and thorough reply. Let me respond in kind.

As much as I don't like the phrase "IP doesn't exist" as it is simplistic and inevitably prone to being misunderstood, I agree with it mostly. IP does kinda exist as a fiction created by governments. Without them, without the monopoly on violence which torces a kind of collective hallucination of IP. it does not exist.

Even though I did not say it directly one can derived it from what I said earlier.

The entire concept of property exists solely to adress issue of scarcity (limited availability of material things) and to allow us to share these limited resources in a non-conflicting manner. For instance, If I want to sit in a chair nobody else can sit in it while I am sitting in it, or if I want to use a piece of land to grow veggies there, it cannot be used for for example building a house. That is why we have the concept of property.

When it comes to IP however, this problem does not exist. Me having the same idea as someone else, does not infringe on him having the idea. Me singing a song somebody else wrote, does not take the song from him. Me making a copy of a movie does not destroy the previous instance of the movie. The sole problem property aims to solve does not exist when it comes to intellectual property.

Also while I am at the fundamental flaws of IP, I must mention, that it inherently and inevitably creates a problem of authorship and ownership that doesn't exist in the physical realm pnve again because of scarcity. If I take some wood and craft a chair out of it, I can prove that it is I who made it and that nobody else has created because nobody else has had thst wood that I crafted it out of. However I can think exactly the same thing as someone else without ever even knowing the other person exists. (as has been nicely illustrated by Jevons and Menger independently coming up with the concept of marginal utility) I can think I created a unique melody while it has been used a thoushand times before by thoushands of other people.

While I am at it, there is the problem of minimal unit of ownership with IP that once again does not exist in the physical realm. What is the smallest unit of information one can claim ownership of? A note? A 3 not melody? Ten words? A letter? Whatever solution you choose, it always creates unexpected artificial problems.

Now to adress your concerns. It is most certain. that current knowledge. progress and technology would have been different if the fiction of IP wasn't forced on us. I don't however think, that it would be worse. I do think. it would be better.

To be honest I do not care much about the current subcategories of IP as I reject the entire concept.

When it comes to the issue of authorship, you don't need IP. You don't need to own a thing to claim authorshipand you can have a system to punish lies. Lie about authorship is still a lie even without IP and can be treated as such. Even without IP and centralized justice/judicial system (decentralized judicatory system is a very hard concept to grasp, don't worry about it too much now) you still can sue people who falsely claim that they have created this or that. You still get to claim authorship without IP. What you cannot claim is ownership of the immaterial resources.

The crucial aspect of the entire IP problem is that enforcing it requires interfering with rights of third parties who never consented to it, who never made any agreements with you. Let me illustrate. I as a (former) musician can create a song. I am the author of the song. I can record it and distribute copies of the recording. I can pair those copy with a license that specifies what my customers can do with it. So far everything is fine and legitimate.

Now imagine, that as it often happens, somebody breaks the license agreement and publishes a copy of my work on Pirate Bay and millions of people download and enjoy my song. Do I have the right to sue the millions of people that downloaded it from Pirate bay? I say no. I don't know those people, we do not have any contract between us, they are a third party completely unrelated to me. Current IP implementstion says yes and I think that's wrong as it makes third parties responsible for things they haven't signed up for. I don't have any right to force unknown people that had no interaction with me or my property.(remember the IP is not property despite it's name)

There are many more problems and rabbit holes without even going into the flaws of contemporary implementation of IP. Let me cut it off here and let me know what you don't agree with and/or where you may need a more detailed explanation.

Also hello from almost neighboring tax farm. (to the northwest of your tax farm)

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Yo. what's the context here?

What should I do with people who are not discussion partners?

How to treat in a cultured and civilized manner when someone refuses to admit that he is wrong, or even that he is stupid about something.

I admit if I don't know something:

e.g. I don't know how to program discrete mathematical functions or cryptographic algorithms.

But e.g. I didn't even know what the "fleshlight" was - that was made a meme about it. Although I didn't even want this knowledge, but: thanks for the info, now I know :-)

But if someone says that: there is no such thing as Intellectual Property, and he or she thinks that everything that is digital can be freely copied, and he/she can even makes money from what he/she copied from someone else without the author's permission. What should I do with this?

Tell this to artists who want to sell their own work on a webshop and advertise their artwork here in Nostr. Instead, someone else copies it, prints the photo, painting, and makes money out of it. Not for the artist, but for himself/herself.

Or say it to those who advertise their paid adult content websites here on Nostr. Instead, someone makes these contents available without any permission and even makes money from these contents for himself/herself.

It's all intellectual property, like it or not. And it is indeed a violation of copyright if this is not permitted (usually from the author).

But there are persons who do not consider it illegal to claim someone else's artwork, book, invention, or software as their own.

Tell that to Einstein, Picasso, Dali, Tolstoy, or e.g. to Linus Torvalds.

IMO there is no point in talking to such a person anymore.

Please correct me if

I'm wrong!

Well, the preface is good, but the end here doesn't match.

Doubting the entire concept of intellectual property is perfectly valid, the only problem here is that not everybody has the right knowledge and debate skills to defend such a difficult position to defend as most people resist it more or less for the reasons you listed.

Before I go deeper into it, let me clarify what I am defending and what I am attacking. I am saying that:

- Intellectual property (IP further) is a misnomer, because it does not meet the criteria of a property

- IP itself is unenforcible without a monopoly on violence.

- IP is a suboptimal way of protecting bad business models and practices

- IP often hinders progress and leaves us poorer than we would be without it.

- Opposing IP is not objectively morally wrong, it may even be morally right.

It's funny you should mention Linus Thorvalds in defense of IP. The guy, who made his life's work free to access, use, modify, distribute and even sell for everybody and never, afaik, published anything under a copyright or similirly strict license.

Ok, this is already much too long, so let me do it this way: Please pick, which of the statements above you do not agree with or which need further explanation. I'll go over the argumentation of each of the selected statements. Or maybe I can recommend you works of Stephen Kinsella, who does the critique of IP way better thsn I do. You can find his argumentation on YouTube. (just look for "Stephen kinsella intellectual property")

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Shady's back

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#shitpost #memes

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The ring finger moves independently enough. You dont have zo use your entire fingers. First knuckle and up is good enough.

And tecognizibility isn't (theoretically all thst different. Up. down and perpendicular are all imho unique enough to just work.

However neither is really pf any concern here. It was just a wuick brain fart, not a suggestion thst we should do it. I don't know about you. but I don't really often feel the urge to count to particularly high numberbon my fingers

Until a while back, I though the highest you can get on your fingers is 30. How do you get 32? Do you only have one hand?

Didn't even think to think about it that way. Come to think of it, I have no idea, why 3 is somehow connected to the word "peace"

Is it better or worse if my entire IRL social bubble has never even heard of it because they are ignorant on current events?