They need to make it modular so you could plug in a simplex, or some better chat.
I like the concept of having a Venmo like payment attached to many different sites that just work.
About to switch to a more privacy focused phone. Iāve never heard of obtanium.
Is it easy to get all the apps with just these two locations?
Strike pays to a lnurl whatever amount you specify.
if serious, whatās the problem youāre having?
Why Nostr is strugglingā¦
There is too much of an overlap with X, not only in the feature sets among the primary applications, but more importantly, in the kind of audience that Nostr is catering to.
Sure..censorship resistance at the protocol level is a differentiator, but the to the average person, you may as well be talking gibberish. They donāt know wtf a protocol is in the first place - let alone why it matters for censorship resistance to happen at that level, or more importantly, WHY they should trust Nostr to deliver on that promise. āBcoz nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m said soā is not an argument.
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Bluesky is a case in point here.
Itās got a VERY similar feature set to X, claims to be open source / censorship resistant (similar narrative to Nostr), and is growing MUCH faster than Nostr, bc it has captured a key audience, ie; people with TDS and EDS (Elon Derangement Syndrome).
Iāve been on there a few times, and the content quality is enough to make you want to throw upā¦.but at the very least, itās working for that kind of content, and for the people who want it.
I donāt have a direct answer here..but I think itās something to do with the over-emphasis on technicals.
nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 mentioned increasing the emphasis on design the other day. I agree this is a move in the right direction. Weāre taking a very design-focused approach with nostr:npub15xd2mmjnh3caykh77djsv73e0zkrp42jp5mwerx8f4m6su40wdvss7t3l3 (weāll have ALOT more to show in the next 6wks).
That being said, itās not enough.
IMO, Nostr is technically mature enough for us to go out there and talk about it to more people, and build a narrative BEYOND the 500 of us that are talking to each other on here.
People like nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft or nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc can correct me if I am wrong here. Maybe thereās alot more to do technically.
But if I am right, Iād like to see more initiatives that are marketing oriented being supported by nostr:npub17xvf49kht23cddxgw92rvfktkd3vqvjgkgsdexh9847wl0927tqsrhc9as and nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f and other coalitions. Maybe we even need a council of Nostr businesses, who together pool some funds to help drive some marketing initiatives?
Whatever the case, we need to expand upon the Nostr narrative, make it more compelling and speak to more people about it.
At the very least, we have to conquer then Bitcoiners. If we canāt get the segment who are into freedom money onto the freedom of speech network, weāre DOA. Thatās a first step.
I know nostr:npub1hz5alqscpp8yjrvgsdp2n4ygkl8slvstrgvmjca7e45w6644ew7sewtysa is working on a very cool initiative in relation to this. The Nostr Booth is IMO a great way to make Nostr more ārealā for bitcoiners by having a physical presence at all the conferences.
I know nostr:npub1utx00neqgqln72j22kej3ux7803c2k986henvvha4thuwfkper4s7r50e8 + nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 are doing some Podcast outreach. Thatās super important too. nostr:npub16vrkgd28wq6n0h77lqgu8h4fdu0eapxgyj0zqq6ngfvjf2vs3nuq5mp2va and crew are putting on Nostriga. Amazing. nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr / nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg are doing great things with nostr:npub1spdnfacgsd7lk0nlqkq443tkq4jx9z6c6ksvaquuewmw7d3qltpslcq6j7, etc on the content side. Iāve got some things up my sleeve personally which I will begin to do once nostr:npub15xd2mmjnh3caykh77djsv73e0zkrp42jp5mwerx8f4m6su40wdvss7t3l3 is in a position to represent a NEW kind of Nostr-product..
But we need MOAR..
Andā¦we also need to find another angle that is NOT about censorship resistance. Thatās clearly not working against X.
I donāt know the EXACT narrative or spin, but it has to be more ārunning towardsā than ārunning fromā.
More white pill, less black pill.
Anyway.
I will probably turn this into an article. Iāve been thinking more and more about āwriting in publicā as we build Satlantis, and sharing more about how weāre thinking about growing a ānetwork productā on top of a ānetwork protocolā.
If you think this was valuable, please repoast so more people can see and get involved in the discussion.
Normies will get frustrated logging in to a site.
Nostr login is powerful and will be ubiquitous, but itās not ready.
It issues an IOU for sats similar to the state banks in the US in the 1800s. You deposit some gold (sats) in the Bank of Kentucky (cashu mint) and you have a promise to redeem that IOU for the same amount of gold at a later time. The bank assumes the risk of storage.
If the bank (cashu mint) remains solvent and in business (two different things: think of the guy in the front of the line in a bank run and the guy at the end of the line) then the ābank noteā (cashu token) you received held its value.
Then instead of just keeping the IOUs they started to use them as currency, where other businesses would accept notes instead of just gold.
This is the step that makes cashu win. Itās not a savings tool, thatās Bitcoin. Itās a bearer asset with several use cases. Privacy and fungibility among the strong points.
And regarding your last paragraph, you donāt hope to get āsomeā of your value back, you hope to get all your value back. Proof of liabilities and proof of reserves are in work and there will be risk, but I think the future would be better if professionals ran lightning nodes (I hate to use the term ābanksā here, but call them Cashu mint operators) and we all zapped around Cashu tokens with no ( or very small ) fees.
Iām the smartest and funniest nym you know and you donāt even follow me.
NostrPay (cashu) and NostrLogin will dominate.
The circular economy will gain traction when incentives are lined up.
GM & PV #nostr šāļø
The amount of people that have said āwow, Iām surprised you had nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs and nostr:npub1hk0tv47ztd8kekngsuwwycje68umccjzqjr7xgjfqkm8ffcs53dqvv20pf on nostr:npub1fpcd25q2zg09rp65fglxuhp0acws5qlphpg88un7mdcskygdvgyqfv4sld" is exactly the problem Iām trying to fix.
I want to run a show where a wide variety of guests, topics, and ideologies are covered! Whether people assume they know me because Iām āfrom the leftā or whether they want what I do to be some sort of echo-chamber in its own way, I reject that. I will not be a part of perpetuating that problem.
We are all just people hoping and fighting for a better tomorrow š«š
The left/right paradigm and polarization is dead. Those in power just want you to think it still exists. No nuance, no focus on truth, rationality, or mutual respect and human dignity. This doesnāt mean we all agree on everything, but that we should have an ability to see the humanity in one another and live in harmony.
There is but one philosophy I try to live by and thatās Ubuntu: I am because we are. My humanity is inextricably wrapped up in yours, so letās promote harmony and peace for all humanity and life on earth. The way you do that is a starting with yourself, each and every day.
Without the ākum-bah-yahā, hereās my take:
The US is too large of a country both geographically and by population to be a monoculture that agrees on everything. People of California should have a different culture than people of Alabama or Montana. This should be celebrated.
The 10th amendment addresses this by letting the state government have the bulk of the say in your life.
An ideal situation would be a broad interpretation of 10A. Then Vivekās plan to abolish most of the federal government would be implemented.
Then when California thinks reparations are a neat idea, it only affects California taxpayers, they vote with their feet and the state implodes. (Hypothetically, of course)
But right now thereās a federal backstop and a large federal umbrella that makes the āvote with your feetā less impactful.
If the states had to stand on their own for everything *not* given to the federal government in the constitution, the 50 competing democratic experiments would work best for everyone.
I changed Zeus from TOR connection to LNC and itās much faster
But I can use my own mints, right?
I like the business model. We know āwho will build the roadsā in a keychat world.
Are users required to use the built in wallet?
Simplex Chat is very popular in the Nostr community; whenever someone posts a note asking which chat app is secure, many people recommend Simplex Chat. We also think Simplex Chat is a great app.
So, many people ask what is the difference between Keychat and Simplex Chat? Is Keychat's security as good as Simplex Chat's? Is it really possible to create a chat app as secure as Simplex Chat on Nostr? Why not just use Simplex Chat? Why reinvent the wheel?
A common misconception in the Nostr community is that Nostr is not suitable for private things.
"Nothing about any of the protocols weāve developed requires centralization; itās entirely possible to build a federated Signal Protocol-based messenger, but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all." ā Signal Founder Moxie https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving%C2%A0
This is because the encryption process is completed on the client side, and relays only pass the encrypted messages.
Keychat and Simplex Chat both use the Signal protocol to encrypt messages, so both meet the following security requirements 1-4:
Anti-Forgery
Anti-Forgery ensures that the sender of a message is verifiable and the message has not been tampered with.
End-to-End Encryption
End-to-end encryption ensures that only the sender and receiver can decrypt and read the message content, protecting it from unauthorized access by servers or other network devices.
Forward Secrecy
Forward secrecy ensures that even if the current key is compromised, historical messages cannot be decrypted, since each message uses a new encryption key, which is deleted after use.
Break-in Recovery
Break-in Recovery ensures that if the current key is compromised, future messages cannot be decrypted, and the system can recover from the attack. This feature is also known as backward secrecy.
Metadata Privacy
Protecting the privacy of communication involves more than just protecting the content of messages; it also includes protecting the identities of the communication parties and other data.
Regarding the fifth point, metadata privacy. The designs of Keychat and Simplex Chat are different.
Simplexās metadata privacy protection scheme
"Simplex chat is the first messenger without user IDs."
āTo deliver messages, instead of user IDs used by all other platforms, SimpleX uses temporary anonymous pairwise identifiers of message queues, separate for each of your connections ā there are no long term identifiers.ā
āTemporary anonymous pairwise identifiers
SimpleX uses temporary anonymous pairwise addresses and credentials for each user contact or group member.
It allows to deliver messages without user profile identifiers, providing better meta-data privacy than alternatives.ā
We can understand this mechanism as, if a Simplex Chat user has 10 friends, they have 10 IDs, using different IDs with different friends?
Keychatās metadata privacy protection scheme
Current chat applications and email have forgotten that an address is not the same as an ID, treating the ID as the address. Emails and current chat applications send messages as [from: Alice's ID to: Bob's ID]. Regardless of how your geographical address changes, when Alice sends an email to Bob, itās always [from: Alice's ID to: Bob's ID]. This compromises metadata privacy.
However, letters work differently; they are [from: Alice's current geographical address to: Bob's current geographical address].
Keychat separates the receiving address and sending addresses from the ID, and the receiving address and sending addresses are also different. Keychat messages are [from: Alice's one-time sending address to: Bob's almost one-time receiving address]. This makes it difficult for outsiders and relay administrators to determine who is sending messages to whom.
Which scheme do you think is easier to understand and better protects metadata privacy?
Finally, Keychat also uses ecash sat as a stamp for messages, with relays funded by stamp revenue to sustain operations.
SimpleX would say this better protects metadata privacy because thereās no ability to correlate from āaccountā (Aliceās one time sending address) to Aliceās ID. SimpleX doesnāt have the latter.
If I understand correctly, keychat also has 10 sending addresses for 10 friends, you just add the ability to correlate those 10 to an ID.
Just trying to understand.
GM & PV #nostr šāļø
The amount of people that have said āwow, Iām surprised you had nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs and nostr:npub1hk0tv47ztd8kekngsuwwycje68umccjzqjr7xgjfqkm8ffcs53dqvv20pf on nostr:npub1fpcd25q2zg09rp65fglxuhp0acws5qlphpg88un7mdcskygdvgyqfv4sld" is exactly the problem Iām trying to fix.
I want to run a show where a wide variety of guests, topics, and ideologies are covered! Whether people assume they know me because Iām āfrom the leftā or whether they want what I do to be some sort of echo-chamber in its own way, I reject that. I will not be a part of perpetuating that problem.
We are all just people hoping and fighting for a better tomorrow š«š
The left/right paradigm and polarization is dead. Those in power just want you to think it still exists. No nuance, no focus on truth, rationality, or mutual respect and human dignity. This doesnāt mean we all agree on everything, but that we should have an ability to see the humanity in one another and live in harmony.
There is but one philosophy I try to live by and thatās Ubuntu: I am because we are. My humanity is inextricably wrapped up in yours, so letās promote harmony and peace for all humanity and life on earth. The way you do that is a starting with yourself, each and every day.
Would you have Trump on your podcast?
Instead of large-following being the desired metric, to build from the bottom up we should target prolific note makers.
What is quantum resistance in the context of cryptographic protocols, and how does it affect Bitcoin?
'Quantum resistance is the ability for cryptographic protocols to remain secure in the presence of fast quantum computers.'
Bitcoin can continue using its currently highly space efficient cryptography while it remains safe, and then upgrade to post-quantum cryptography when it looks like itāll soon become necessary.
https://bitcoinops.org/en/topics/quantum-resistance/
#cryptography #bitcoin #quantumresistance
Should be developed asap, deployed when imminent.
I say that as not knowing at all if itās trivial and just expensive or itās non-trivial to implement.
