Some people should spend more time looking at the problems faced by ethereum (for example LSD) before they endorse drivechains. Learn from experience instead of blindly listening to assumptions thrown around on Bitcoin twitter.
Let’s revive the #liquidtorch !
The first to paste a liquid address in the replies gets the torch 🔦 
It would be some electronic gift cards that can be redeemed for bitcoin
Can it not be akin to selling gift cards?
Passing on the #liquidtorch !
Paste a liquid address in the comments to become the next torch bearer 🔥 
Proud owner of the Liquid torch 
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When are we getting names and profile pictures? 
A little gift for the nutty folks out here
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Maybe a solution could be to define a set of tests for nostr clients handling of accounts and a public website where test results on available nostr apps are published ?
You can use sideswap. Very good and no kyc.
Drivechains don’t add anything meaningful until there’s a clear argument that show people are not using liquid because of the federated model.
Keep in mind lots of bitcoin are circulating on ethereum as wrapped tokens with worst trust models than a federation. Which indicates that it is not not trust model that people are after.
Too soon to say that taproot has under delivered. Lots being worked on.
I do not recall miners coordinating through softforks to respond to attacks. Do you have an example?
I guess the question is twofold
1- What’s the point of running a node if the power is with the miners?
2- If nodes don’t matter, why not increase blocksize for scaling?
In this case why restrict blocksize? We could also increase blocksize to “solve” scaling issues which would make running a node accessible to only a few.
And with that single update the ads were back 😅 nostr:note1muzxv6wds92mk34y2j5syjswkl3dm9sjwlknl5fyymddyczdwalqvkmqjc
It’s only because of Zaps being demonstrated in practice that there was enough excitement and momentum for building other better tooling and for people to spend the extra time to try more complex setup.
Hindsight forgets the state of mind of people back then.
