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Saberhagen The Nameless
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...and non fungibility + lack of privacy comes with that choice. There are no free choices.

You can use each for it's strength. Save with Bitcoin, spend with Monero.

The consequences of an exploited inflation bug would cripple Bitcoin or Monero either way. Several times in bitcoin history there was a potential exploit, one where only the devs knew, but they honorably patched it.

They both have trade offs. ASICs are not perfect.

ASIC-resistance makes Monero mining more decentralized than Bitcoin. Just about everyone has a CPU. No manufacturer chokepoints like ASICs. Much more discrete. No red flag energy draw and noise. No corporate farms easily targetetable by the state.

You are right #Bitcoin and #Nostr are similar since they are both public protocols that reveal interactions between peers. Very fitting.

#Monero is more akin to #SimpleX 🤫

I think this is a tradeoff to not using any centralized service for notifications. I feel you though. I remember Matrix Element battery drain was so terrible I uninstalled it too.

Not sure when it was that you used SimpleX, but there have been many improvements. They have three options for notifications with varying battery drain:

-No notifications: no battery drain

-Periodic notifications: some battery drain (every ten minutes)

-Instant notifications: substantial battery drain

I'm content with periodic notifications, but understand why that wouldn't be enough for some.

I'm not talking about a 2FA sent over SMS or a pin sent over SMS.

This is the pin/password you set when you first register a phone number to Signal and have to remember it. The pin doesn't recover any chat history or contacts on Signal either. All it does is prevent someone from registering that phone number on Signal again.

So ownership of the phone number doesn't matter, because if they try registering it with Signal again they won't be able to without the pin/password that was set. And even in the extremely unlikely chance they get your pin/password somehow, it won't contain any chat history or contacts.

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059792-Signal-PIN

LN is overwhelmingly used in a non-private way. Same non-default privacy tediousness of Bitcoin (meaning majority will not use it privately. Defaults matter.). It's possible to have semi-private unannounced channels by sacrificing useability.

Your list of attack surfaces is kind of a moot point because Bitcoin has all that against it *ON TOP OF* being a public blockchain. Monero is not a privacy panacea, but it makes privacy possible and much more simple and accessible. And IP address is automatically protected with Dandelion++ when using Monero so the IP thing isn't even true.

The most you can hope for on Bitcoin is to remain anonymous, but your actions are always public. Obfuscation is not privacy. Nothing is hidden. That data can be saved and combined with future data and novel techniques to deobfuscate and eventually use that data to deanonymise. Both anonymity *and* privacy matter and can be weaponized to unconver the other.

Yes, I agree the phone number requirement is not ideal, and there are better alternatives like SimpleX that are technically superior. But say your friends and family all use Signal: As a hypothetical, what would be the best way to go about using Signal for them?

"There are no burner numbers."

I just provided a few links above to grab a temp phone number to use to verify Signal, almost no account info required, using a fake email, and you can pay with coinjoined Bitcoin or Monero. Anyone in the world can use it. If done correctly behind tor, or at least a good VPN, it seems like it would be pretty anonymous. And once you set a Signal pin for that phone number no one should be able to use that phone number again to register on Signal. In theory at least.

So, the way I understand it, Signal is very private cryptographically, just not anonymous because of the phone number requirement. But they seem to help obfuscate who is messaging who using another cryptographic technique they call "sealed sender" to break up the connection graph. But this is just my understanding I don't know if it is correct and am not an expert on this stuff. That's why I asked if you or anyone else could give me some insight.

Do you mean buying at physical locations in person? Then yes, very limited. I think that is the case for a lot of crypto.

But there are many places for buying physical goods and digital services online directly with Monero. The gift cards are just a bridge to cover anything else you can't find.