I see it as more of a downgrade when I used to be able to delete things online but can’t now, and this is the future? Don’t get me wrong, I’m waiting patiently for nostr to implement this and I’ll be diving HEAD FIRST into making content on here.
I’m glad I’m not the only one with this concern. And I’m not even in a country where the government retaliates against people for speaking up or speaking out. To anyone reading this that resides in one of those countries, this post is for you!
There are MANY MANY innocent situations where deletion is necessary. Some outlined here: https://damus.io/note1l5pv64z294l9cc4jx6f92glrz3ymtc25glujy3dz9ceqc62at8asyw4gj2
My solution would be for us to have a feature like a button a user can press that can scrub their post and edit to say “post removed by user” like what I’ve seen people do during the Reddit exodus
This is EXACTLY what I was hoping to see! BRAVO
Me and many others never created on hive for the same reason
Whoever successfully develops this will have a significant impact on nostr
#yesstr (like yessir) can that be a thing? Agreed, I just don’t want you to have to HOST my mistakes.
And you gave me my first zap, I’m grateful. Thank you. 🙏
And let’s add the biggest one too, you can’t delete anything.
Did you put a lot of time into a post to make it formatted really beautifully for everyone on Nostr to see and then when you clicked on post, the image link wasn’t loading correctly? Nothing you can do but make a reply to your own post like “sorry guys the screenshot isn’t loading for some reason so I have to make this addendum post so you know what I’m talking about. Hopefully you scrolled down this far!”
Or what about the scenario:
“sorry guys for posting that long tutorial about how awesome nostr is four times, (and using up a lot of your data, battery life, etc) but the client I was using crashed after clicking post.”
Also:
“Hey guys the site to the link I posted back in 2024 was taken over by someone with bad intentions and now it contains known malware. I want to take personal responsibility because I shared it back then and at the time of writing there was no delete NIP so tell everyone to scroll to the bottom and read this message so they don’t get scammed!”
I love what you have to say when I watch videos with you in it. I’m curious about your thoughts on this and what can be done for the long term.
Hopefully this can inspire some productive discussion so we don’t end up in a situation where everyone is storing junk posts on their relays that contain typos, errors, etc. and people are like “yeah, I would love to take personal responsibility and clean up my posts, not to mention saving some harddrive space but I just can’t!”
See? I was proofreading this and realized I spelled “you’re” wrong but what can an eager #nostrich do to clean it up for you and everyone else who comes across it? I’m still very open to anyone being able to #changemymind
Ah yes if only “don’t be a dick online” wasn’t subjective it would be simple like you say.
I believe it’s very nuanced. I believe you’ve deleted things you posted online in your lifetime that didn’t have anything to do with you being a dick or not.
If you accept the functionality of “let’s just never have delete again 🤷♂️ guys and if we aren’t dicks online then we’re okay 👍 it’s simple!” Then it’s like saying you’re okay with your autocorrect, you’re okay with double posts because of weak cell signal, the use cases go on and on….
Appreciated your response 🙏
How would permanent deletion be against the idea of #nostr ? Isn’t nostr about not being censored and decentralized? So you’re already using different clients for different purposes, how about you have different profiles on each client? One is about work and one is for memes (to make this fun) but you accidentally post a meme in the client that’s signed into your work profile. Not a big problem right? You can just delete it before your boss sees like #twitter. You weren’t being a dick online you just made a human mistake. How to do explain to your boss that “look, I made a mistake that was supposed to be on my personal account but I can’t delete it because it goes against the whole idea of why I’m using nostr.”
When a new user (or company, #politician, #activist group) finds out they can’t permanently delete their own #nostr posts what’s the incentive to continue? Yes you can’t be censored but what about when it involves evidence that could be used in court? If anyone can setup a relay who’s stopping the #NSA from logging all posts similar to what they do with #tor exit relays? In a world where you can be jailed for a “tweet” people hesitate to contribute to a platform that doesn’t give them the confidence to know that if they delete something it’s not going to pop up on a relay somewhere else down the line should public narrative change. Which it does often. You end up in one of two camps. They both have drawbacks. A: you speak freely but can’t link it to your identity so nobody #IRL around you can recognize you and recommend you for similar projects, people, communities, etc. (see #satoshi ) or B: you link your profile to your identity and only say “safe” topics and mute your #freedom so you can operate in #commerce and you avoid what the #canadian tuckers went through with having their #bank accounts shut down. The good news is that if there’s a community of people who’s aware of this and trying to solve this problem it’s hard to find a better place than nostr. Once the deletion problem is solved the floodgates of adoption will open. I would love to be wrong about this. Please #changemymind