It depends on the person. Some might see something, take it at face value and move on. More curious minds are willing to take a second look and dig further. In that case they might end up learning the truth about something. And that makes it all worth it.

A Turing test determines if something that is a computer is distinguishable from a human, it does not determine between human’s and a computer that is sufficiently complex enough to pose as a human… right?

AGI does not exist, and will never do. Not in our lifetime at least.

An AI model is by definition trained to do one specific task.

Would you consider that a sign that they’re willing to go deeper? Even if the depth of their curiosity ends at their first stop. Those who searched have a framework to build their opinions (even if your opinion is that it’s flawed), when the average Joe on the street doesn’t.

My main concern has always been at the human layer. That future generations will just forget why any of this decentralisation stuff and immutability matters in the first place.

Kick-starting #Bitcoin #SkepticismSundays 😎

One of the things that showed me the intellectual honesty of the Monero community and helped to force the community to stay grounded in reality and always laser focused on their core ethos was their weekly "Skepticism Sunday" Reddit threads. These threads allowed the community to come together, ask hard and skeptical questions about the design of Monero, the privacy provided, the economic approach, and much more.

In my time in Bitcoin I've never seen anything similar, but the nuanced and high-signal crowd on Nostr seems like a perfect fit to fire things up and see how it goes.

The goal of this thread (which I'll post weekly on Sunday's) is for discussing the uncertainties, shortcomings, and concerns some may have about Bitcoin.

NOT the positive aspects of it.

Discussing things with a critical thinking approach and level-headed discussion helps us learn where Bitcoin and it's community can improve and go from there.

I know this is late on Sunday, will post earlier next week but would love to hear y'all's thoughts on the concept or skepticism 🙂

Would you say that the average bitcoin pleb on twitter/nostr has done more research on the history of money, monetary policy, etc (whether or not you agree with their conclusions) than an average person you meet on the street?

Memes are hilarious. Not all but when they hit, oh boy. Comedy is subjective. Communicating in this way is brilliant. NY times used to pay (not sure anymore) lots of money for political /current event cartoons. Math followed those to get a pulse on what was happening. Not all true but typically timely/current & there is always truth in comedy. Somewhere. There are also tons of great articles, YouTube videos, podcasts etc etc for information. Memes are just a quick hit and are brilliant when done well. IMO.

That’s the whole point. Powerful memes will make you think and want to dig a little deeper in a quest for truth. Poor memes are what they are and invariably end up in self-contradictions and other fallacies. Memes require critical thinking to create them and to understand them effectively; something that is unfortunately lacking in a generation that has been indoctrinated in what to think, instead of how to ask questions.

In a lucky twist of fate, even though consumers can’t train them, they can run them locally.

yes. you are one of very few who makes acknowledgments where due despite disagreement. thanks for clarifying for me what you meant. i no longer feel the need to look into it further. thank goodness 🤣🤣🤣🤣🥲

well, to your point about memes…many are extremely emotionally invested. the anger & abuse protects their egos from having to consider anything outside themselves 😔

You may have noticed I responded to the content of the note as well.

Even if a lot of people don't share this opinion, it's good to see some disagreement on nostr. At times it seems a bit too much like a monoculture (bitcoin chat room where everyone shares the same beliefs and says the same things a lot) and generating debate is healthy and a nice stress test.

Maybe I don't understand your point then

I’m saying that memes can and do encompass the entire space of ideas.

Mike, he’s so shitcoin, tho. Since you are saying he’s “very smart,” i feel i want to investigate… is there a particular podcast episode you would recommend?

How does your original argument not apply to the idea of conversation itself?

This is why I said “whether unpopular or not,” because if I accepted your post as true, then I’d argue your post was just group signaling for all the cynical people who always want to believe that all people are stupid & tribal.

A simple example: does the meme of 21 million convey any useful information at all, or is it empty if any purpose except for group signaling to reinforce tribalism? 🤔