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Trying to spice things up here by being contrarian in threads where everyone just agrees with each other in an online yawn fest for the ages. Pure sport. High chance I don't really care about what I'm arguing for.

I don’t buy this logic, tempting as it is. Global counts, once available and reliable, sooner or later become indispensable, and from that point onwards saying “it can still work without them” becomes lip service to pure protocol ideology. Happens every time.

Yes, removal is right. Without an ever-present and in-your-face caveat, it amounts to lying to the user. And that's wrong. We can’t expect a new user to interpret “26 followers” as anything other than “26 followers”. And the chance that 26 followers (or whatever number shows at a given time) is the *actual* number of followers is going to be extremely low—not that we could ever be sure of the number anyway.

That’s sort of admitting that nostr is an internet that *needs* a Google. Which is cool, nothing wrong with crawling and indexing per se, but that’s quite a thing for a decentralized protocol to collectively admit.

Honestly, for the equivalent of a few small bills in the pockets of my jeans, if I worried about it a good deal then that'd mean (a) I'm really struggling financially, in which case I've got bigger things to worry about, or (b) I've got some kind of OCD, so again, bigger things to worry about.

The topic of the genesis community on social networks is an interesting one. You only get one shot.

With Facebook you had the cool kids at Ivy league universities. Had Mark Zuckerberg been a freshman at BYU instead of Harvard would Facebook have gone anywhere?

Maybe the composition and flavor of the genesis community is one of the single largest factors in success. No tech is going to make up for a genesis community that (a) can’t be quarantined like Reddit and (b) pushes more people away than it helps keep around.

That’s kind of a problem on nostr, everyone for whom that post is hidden will see you replying to a friendly guy introducing YakiHonne

It will definitely make it easier for newcomers without sats to get sats

I’m coming to the conclusion that the Nostr identity layer plus Cashu--and the evolving toolsets surrounding both--are where this all is at. That is the stack. That's all that's needed for something huge.

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

- Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster, lyrics, 'Me And Bobby Mcgee'

I mean if I sent a post on Damus, and a toast popped up after a few seconds saying "Sent to 3/5 relays", to me that would be meaningless if Damus kept trying to send to the other two relays.

It wouldn't help with confidence at all, because maybe a short while after the other two relays will take it. Who knows?

For such a notification, it only makes sense to me if it's an end result and not an update at a point in time.

Like on WhatsApp, when you get a message failed notice it means the message failed and WhatsApp is not going to keep trying anymore. If you want to try again, go ahead, it's on you.