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Guy Swann
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I think this is a supremely underrated necessity for a really great and secure Nostr experience.

Basically two main options to fix this, imo:

1. generate a new key for every single client you use, and then sign with a master key that “this is mine” and so every user sees them as all one account.

2. generate sub keys *from* a master key that you can give specific permissions to and make a new one for each client, and it simply is allowed to reach out to a main device that has your master, and ask it to sign. (Basically the nsec bunker design)

Both open up a ton of possibilities. The first is easier, but requires more complication and data gathering from the client side it seems. The second has the problem of needing an always online device that manages the master key, or having some sort of “good for 100 posts” key or something somehow.

Both are not easy, but both seem very possible. And I think this is far more important to have a system for than people recognize, imo.

Of course. To say one isn’t to concede the other. I think the major trade offs mostly happen at the protocol layer, which much of those issues are being solved very well, it’s simply about extending them up to those who can use them properly.

Again nsec bunker like tools are a great example. Literally all of the tools are there, it’s just never been made intuitive and the edges haven’t been cleaned up. And if that doesn’t happen then there’s no demand from clients to support it. Circular problem.

I think it’s less of a problem of trade offs for a lot of these, and more a problem of people excited to build a tool that they can use, but not interested in building it for someone who doesn’t understand anything about it. Devs I think get lost in chasing the next awesome thing, rather than doing the slow, difficult process of making the last thing built really streamlined, intuitive, and reliable.

Not saying I am not guilty of the same. It’s like building a house but never painting it or putting up trim. It’s just the annoying part of building because it’s slower and it feels like progress isn’t moving at all. But it makes all the difference in the world from the user’s perspective.

I also don’t think we should depend on the devs to do this. I think we need “another layer” of developers, who work with this stuff and try to clean it up for the regular user.

Part of the direction I’m trying to take our team is related to that. Hoping I can help, but I also know how much harder it is to get it done vs *wanting* to make it happen.

The ease of use and bluesky’s trade offs are very often not related. Decentralization and usability are not and do not have to be mutually exclusive.

Replying to Avatar rabble

nostr:npub1gz7uczyg3kvdf8grlwfmllguc3kehrcc05yvnlypkjklptgql5kqa0zkqj yes but not in a way that’s easy to use and makes sense to the users. And we don’t have easy ways to discover them either. Our DVM feeds are slow and only work in a couple of apps. We don’t have good follower suggestions that go beyond showing the most popular people on Nostr.

It’s not about making sure the feature exists, but making sure it’s usable.

If you build a cool feature but ignore its usability, you might have well not wasted time on the feature.

This is a very seriously under appreciated reality in both #Bitcoin and #Nostr generally.

(Not saying there aren’t tons of great tools, but it does seem to be a broadly present issue)

As someone who has tried very hard on multiple occasions to have secondary/sub keys and using nsec bunker to let others post with limited permissions to my key… I can confidently say it’s all trash. And I don’t mean that like nobody worked hard to build something cool, because I know people did, but it’s practically all unusable.

lol, who and why would someone even say that? Without context of the individual, I find it very difficult to not assume that this person has serious insecurities about their own life decisions.

Got my sister in law on #Nostr 🫡

(She does all of the design and graphics work for Bitcoin Audible, Ai Unchained, The Pear Report et al, btw 🔥) nostr:note1lvsuqhw4vd82d2073pkr0h9gxrlj67kzawue2cdnwc80d4xaj2tssh8cxk

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Replying to Avatar High Heel King

Tried out the setup that nostr:nprofile1qqstnem9g6aqv3tw6vqaneftcj06frns56lj9q470gdww228vysz8hqpzdmhxue69uhhwmm59e6hg7r09ehkuef0nj0rty has for Pinokio. Have a hole sail server running on port 7860 of a windows machine. When I scan the QR code with my android device, it says connected on port 5000? Is that correct?

That's probably just the default, you can set it up with any port you want using the --port flag on the remote side.

ie.

holesail --connect biglongkey --port 9988

What the port is on the other machine doesn't matter, although I will often keep it the same so its easy to know which is which (until naming comes to the manager).

So if the pinokio tool is running 7860 on the "server" machine (my linux), then ill connect and put it on the same port for the remote machine (macbook). But the computers aren't talking over that port, its simply the local "door" that the service is accessible on when you open it on your computer.

Hope that helps

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#Bitcoin Infinity

And it doesn’t matter if you want to sow division or not, when you say “as a straight, white male” to preface your position, you sow it regardless. Because you literally establish the mental framing that this is a critical part of your argument, and the next time the reader listens to someone else, they immediately think “I wonder if this is a straight white male?” Because you taught them to.

How you think about the problem precedes the solution. EVERY time

I disagree. Imo, thats analogous to the first step to getting rid of fiat is printing just a little bit to help the poor. It’s axiomatically losing the fight before even beginning.

Minority groups have been negatively affected explicitly by the thinking that has been targeted to *help* them. The govt “assisted” communities have been utterly decimated by a bunch of people stuck in a racist mindset with the “good intentions” of helping them. But failing to separate race from condition.

Literally, the problem would fix itself if we stopped making it the most important part of dealing with each other. But we can’t, so it won’t.

I don’t see how it’s relevant. Bitcoin uses CPU power to establish a global consensus or “canonical truth” of Bitcoin’s history. Nostr and spam aren’t really relevant, other than PoW could maybe be used to protect against spammers flooding a relay by having non-paying or non-invite or non-WoT users provide a small PoW in order to broadcast to the relay specifically.

Otherwise the idea of competing processing power doesn’t apply unless we are all trying to find a single global state and agree on which is the “real” one.

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the topic is so complex & getting messier by the day, week, month…esp w the media wars many are trying to escape from.

but yeah…

in a utopia, (maybe) it would be absurd to mention certain characteristics, traits, whatever of oneself when having conversations about many things.

but in this world, it’s definitely relevant a lot of the time. no one demands it, but it gives a lot of context.

also in this world, as that one guy did some replies earlier where my original reply started…it’s more absurd and questionable to have a knee-jerk reaction of stubborn self-earmuffing…and declaring it…than it is to mention different aspects of oneself to establish greater context, understanding, or even relatable-ness.

these things like straight, white, male are not arbitrary traits…

they’re very real concepts that heavily frame the way people think.

and they’re very real concepts that intentionally or subconsciously influence, heavily, the way people harass, target, & harm people.

and that’s kinda the force of it…

if in this world people get uncomfortable about merely talking about these things, that really does just show that these things need to be talked about more…until, it gets to what i think you’re saying, which is something like~~~ “i wanna be able to talk with most people like i talk with my close friends or family whom i love deeply—without having any need to establish common ground of all being humans whom are loved.”

i don’t think it contributes to racism or sexism to acknowledge what’s actually going on in the world. i think the more we can talk easily about whatever means there’s no issue…and we wouldn’t be talking about it…but we are definitely talking about it…

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“these things like straight, white, male are not arbitrary traits…

they’re very real concepts that heavily frame the way people think.”

I agree and I’m saying that it’s an ignorant and unproductive framing that shouldn’t be embraced, but challenged. It’s exactly how you get stupid laws or sudsidies that are race based rather than income based.

Framing is everything, and if you accept the framing of those hate based on sex and race, you will only encourage everyone to think like that. And no it isn’t useful because other people adopt it, imo. There are real, valuable means by which to judge people, reasons to provide assistance, and models for thinking how to better society… none of them that don’t contribute to more problems start by judging people by their race and sex before actually meaningful characteristics.

I’m gonna get one of these for my adjectives.

Gonna tell people they have to refer to me as “genius Guy” today. nostr:note1d27jmsp65vpujvc8peg6g248f77z522k4455kaztkw5e3rajkrnq89ms9m

Super under appreciated use of #nostr - Signing messages simply for attestation.

This literally is way better UX for Wyatt to show he works with BA than PGP

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Morning beef broth, grass fed steak for lunch, drinking the blood of children for late night snack? 🤔

I mean we should really consider some blood sacrifice rituals if they work this good 🤣

I’ll be perfectly honest, the most appealing thing about Scientology to me is the vast difference between the nominal and physical age of Tom Cruise…

I mean, if that has anything to do with Scientology, I might just go to one or two meetings just to find out what’s up. nostr:note1d33a4rgrqvl9zgx6tjnpy5ejafga8dkev77uxpf7r5nrre2938ls0re5wa

While this is a very fair point, it is also worth noting that this action has explicitly transformed it from one of the most dangerous and violent countries in the world, to one of the safest.

It’s extremely difficult to have a course of action to solve a problem that is so intractable as to have corruption invade every level of the system that is supposed to “adjudicate” the process and have it actually be fair or just. When the system itself is so poisoned that even its design can’t protect it, what do you do?

Again not excusing it, just sharing my thoughts on why “a fair process” doesn’t make a just outcome when it’s completely corrupted from top to bottom.

I’ll point to Jeffrey Epstein as the example for those in the US. How well did it work out to have a system as corrupt as he is, adjudicate and punish his actions? Oh that’s right, they defended him, protected him, funded him, and let him walk around free for decades and then when there was even a hint of the degree of his evil and malice getting out to the public, he was murdered in a cell, behind guards, and under surveillance in a system who’s SOLE purpose was to keep him alive so he could stand trial and we could see some semblance of justice.

So it’s not so black and white as “did they get a fair trial.” Even as someone who holds that as a paramount right of every human. I wish it was, but the world is a messy place. nostr:note1x8z4lwzjknfq7p30p20t3e5yttj0lzjzkywv2hv9388k9cgwma8qn8xq0v

“I wish you knew you were in the good old days while you were still in them.” - Andy nostr:note1l2lkpxys0cpqtj3klzatz2dzerqedsu8ntutm90vh4cuz7a9yjysl3qm3p

OpenAi's o1 preview model codes a chess game that even has a computer playable character... damn dude.

https://v.nostr.build/7hY8iBXTNoAZNO2x.mp4

Replying to Avatar Guy Swann

A short story on why ETH is dying and will continue to do so:

First, why on earth does the ETH crowd work so hard to be the cringiest thing in the world?

Second, ETH is stagnant because they sold their token on a bunch of "revolutionary hullabaloo" and literally the only thing with a meaningful market turned out to just be token gambling during the hype cycles. The growth was always on the "next thing" that was gonna "break open the floodgates" of the whole world running on the ethereum VM, but it never came and there was never a use case that really mattered.

The value case for Bitcoin was always just fixing the money. ETH thought it was literally going to replace the entire internet with a giant, slow AF, expensive, poorly secured and completely unnecessary consensus system because the whole world would financialize everything arbitrarily, and literally sold people on that idea. Apparently all of the same things, "BuT WiTh tOkENs!" that inject pointless volatility, liquidity problems, and that were all centralized anyway, was somehow a "groundbreaking" idea.

-- Bitcoin realized that the problem was the gross OVER financialization of the world, and the pointless gambling of the fiat financial and political apparatus that had caused staggering imbalances and trillions in misallocated and wasted resources. All resulting from shitty, cheap, endlessly manipulated money. It sought to END it.

-- While ETH didn't even understand that as a problem. To the contrary, it sought to EXPAND the over financialization of everything into every last corner of the world and into every market that it hadn't yet ruined.

It only hung on for as long as it did because it had a "roadmap" and everyone could just point to a date in the future where it would suddenly get better and fix all the problems. It was the iceberg build, then the avalanche merge, then the deep freeze, or whatever stupid name they came up with for the15 stages of their 1 year plan that stretched out a decade, that finally culminated into the conversion to a PERMISSIONED proof of stake system... and it was all just a giant "meh."

It's now even more convoluted and less secure, and essentially for the sole purpose of appealing to the "cult of fixing the weather." And still to this day, they survive on the last vestiges of token gambling, but increasingly people are finding out that theres no long term market to gamble on stuff that has no purpose to begin with, except to simply gamble with money. Adding arbitrary tokens just makes it worse. Slot machines are far simpler and serve the purpose perfectly. And if the tokens aren't going anywhere, then there is no way up, and if the token gambling isn't going anywhere, then what does ETH even do except suck at the one thing #Bitcoin has done since the beginning? Be reliable, trustworthy, open, and incorruptible money.

#Bitcoin sught to undo the destructive disincentives of the fiat world. While ETH tried to "technify" all of those bad incentives by tokenizing it all on the blockchain, without ever understanding what any of it actually meant.

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Financialization for the sake of financialization is so completely missing the point. That is always what "crypto," with ETH as the cringe father of it all, really represented.

The slow, drawn out fall of ethereum was easily predicted.

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All utility tokens are just promises of some arbitrary, singular utility that will be "trapped" behind the use of the token itself. In how it was framed and used, I think "financialization of everything" is the best way to describe the crypto thesis.

Replying to Avatar Bitcoin Mechanic

This one hurt nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev

(I tired making the zap splits all go to Guy instead of me. Guilt free meme theft - only on Nostr!)

This is truly one of the most painful memes I've come across 🤣 🤣

Cant remember who I saved it from.

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“I think you should be happy about having your pay cut in half at the same time that we steal half of your savings.” nostr:note1f5ycx9dtuxakanl9vlsttcvqu2p7xcmgu4nm4q0vzxdd3k7srr9sr3nrlu