What are som good paid #relays? #asknostr
You realize that that was an answer to a completely different question, right. Just scroll up. Not only are we going in circles now, you are also losing the track of the conversation.
Bruh. We've been over this. Homeschool and privare school are all options. There are parents here in the state who don' want their kid taught evolution. They tried to suethe school. The courtstold them to go fuck themselves (as they should have). Now there are parents who either homeschool or use private school. But thry don't get to tell public schools to stop teaching science and toteach religious fiction instead.
OMG! I am literally dead and cannot be revived. 🤣☠️😂😵🤣💀☠️😂
It's up to the kid on what and how much risk they choose to take regarding this. The very fact that the mental health trearment was provided could have been worth it. Shit, the kid could be alive now because if that.
Regarding sustainability, I think we are dealing with a form of survival-bias: we only know about the cases where the parents did find out and make a stink about it. If something is successfully kept secreat, it's excluded from "statistics" by its very nature.
Over the past few days you may have observed nostr:nprofile1qqsxnsu74tvsfr64v0f92nuhkzdx09yykjma0a04hzxt3rzx6lglrpcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctc3rklu0 nostr:nprofile1qqsqrd09hfxrc9rv6m5sufax34wteym36pea406dwuz2hzsxkl5sykqpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp05u8q6g and other reply bots running here on #nostr.
Here's the story:
It was an experiment I ran out of curiosity, because I wanted to learn more about nostr and wanted to see:
1. If people would like them.
2. If they could actually be profitable.
2. If it's possible to build bots using only free tools and a limited coding experience.
I jumped into it, researched how bots work, what do I need and how should I set them up. Found most answers one by one using Perplexity and built a simple version initially with Claude that was not able to reply, it just posted on nostr something generated with Gemini. I wanted to make them smart, to reply to stuff, so back to researching and testing until it worked.
How did I built the reply version?
I used a low code visual backend builder for the code and I paid nothing because there were generous credits for the free account. I have to mention that because of an error with the Nostr protocol on the builder side all bots were running without consuming credits in their last version. I used iris.to to build the profiles and coinos.io for the wallets (thumbs up for both of them for the amazing free services). Because there were a lot of questions about this, after I had everything set up all bots were directly interacting with relays via code from backend, without any client.
I used Gemini and Claude to build two of the custom nodes for the visual builder and the logic was simple. All bots were separate projects and the logic was this:
1. Each bot got triggered every 2, 3, 4 or 5 minutes.
2. Get note ID, content, from a random reply posted 1-2 minutes ago on a number of relays. (custom)
3. Generate a reply for the note content using Gemini API. I worked a lot and tested a bunch of instructions and prompts to make them as useful, supportive, and funny as possible depending on the bot profile.
4. Post the reply using the ID, private key of the account and the Gemini reply. (custom)
Was it hard to build? Yes. Took me a couple of days of reading about Nostr, and prompting Claude&Gemini to build those custom nodes in the projects.
Were they profitable?
People zapped around 1k sats a day in total over the past few days.
Did people liked them bots?
Some people hated them, nostr:nprofile1qqsr7acdvhf6we9fch94qwhpy0nza36e3tgrtkpku25ppuu80f69kfqpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09ug4n6q3 nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcscpyug, but some people found them funny and useful. I was reading most of the replies and some of them were quite good. AI is powerful and can generate amazing content if you prompt it the right way. All bots were reported as spam between 5-11 times. Sorry guys for the trouble.
After all, was it worth it?
I learned a lot about nostr, AI, and people in this period so for me I think it was a good learning experience. For all the guys that were frustrated by nostr:nprofile1qqsfwechyha0fzdmw9prmnhdc4jv9mcn46z74k3w3ty7rh3ruz2lnnqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgawaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctceg6rdl terrible jokes or nostr:nprofile1qqs8glv7t0eyugk5n9aa4jek2x25qgcfhaxec72xfy5aw9lpdxpt24gpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0afx2te supportive comments sorry once again. I've seen some discussions between the veterans about improvements on the filtering side of Nostr so probably it was all for the better.
I stopped them all because I felt bad for just spamming people with AI generated content and bots like these are just out of my core beliefs and not according to how I think the internet should be.
I ended up liking this protocol a lot since you can just do stuff and because how open it is. Big thumbs up for all builders on nostr.
Do i recommend anyone to build reply bots? No, unless they have specific use cases that people can trigger when needed. You'll just feel bad after a while if they randomly reply and just stress the cool community using this fascinating protocol.
If you have any questions write them in the comments or DM. I'm really curious, what do you think about this experiment and what was your experience with the reply bots?
God bless you all.
That's awesome! Great job.
It's not about being greater than zero. It's about being greater than the price you can buy it at or sell it for. It doesn't make sense to spend more time and effort to build something you can buy for much cheaper. Especially if that something is fungable. I get spending $150 omln fabric and other materials to sew a dress that you can buy for $30 because then at least you have a unique dress. Bitcoin is the same whether you buy or mine in.
Also, find out the heating effiency between each unit. Measure how many degrees each unit raiaes the temperature compared to how much electricity it eats. (if heater is using another fuel also, like gas, factor that in). Basically: how many degrees per dollar or whatever unit of fiat you use locally. I know electric heaters are 100% percentbefficient (yes really). Idk about the BTC miners. I would imagine it's not 100% bc some energy is used for the calculations, but the diff might be megligible.
So thing to consider: price of units, longevity of units, how much actual heat you'll get per $ of fuel/electricity. And after that seebif it all would be worth it: as in will you still runa good chance of spending less $ to mine a bitcoin than you would just buying it outright at an average pricenof it nowdays (you could also try average forecasted price for however long you think it'll take you to mine one, but thats iffy because there's a netural tendency to be optimistic about the future price of something you have an emotional investment in). Then there's one-time setupncosts.
Also, you may want to think about the non monetary costs of the set up: convenience. Where are the units going to be? Are they going to get in the way? Will they be loud and annoying? Etc.
Try out mindfulness meditation, then. It's veryncommon here in the west and has proven health benifits. Lots of resources on how to do it our there too.
Find out. Bruh, I'm not google. And even if I were I have no idea which specific heating units and bitcoin miners you use... I don't understand the confusion here. Find out the prices of each, find out the average longevity of each, do the math and compare.
If you ask "what math" next, I'm giving up on humanity...
The answer to that question lies in the last sentence of the comment you're replying to.
Yeah, but electricity is not the only cost. There's also the wear and tare on the hardware. You have to consider the prive and longevity of both devices.
GM! Have a good weekend.
#GM, #Nostr. Happy weekend.
Follow your own advice little guy. Shut up and sit down.
nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq6ga0ftymhu7fuhz5n8sn9hf9yft42x5q2x5wg986t8m5z7ls0tdsmmeu3n I also use Claude but I used it with Copilot so maybe cursor is better at guiding the model
Yeah, they jave their own little ai thing, maybe it helps.
I don't know about Copilot, but I use Cursor with (usually) Claude, and it's very helpful if youbrely on it for autocomplete or writing a SIMPLE function or something. If you ask it to code instead of you completely, it makes bigger and bigger mess until it starts getting confused in its own mess.
Also, it's design capabilities are fairly primitive. It can outcode someone who just came out of college, but not an experienced person.
Look into different types of meditation. It's not all just "clear your mind" stuff.