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That sathoarder guy. Feel free to use my strfry relay at: wss://nostr.sathoarder.com It's free.

Even if I know the subject matter, I love these posts man!

It's fine, people can do whatever they want.

But if someone wants to circular rebalance on my nodes then going forward, it's going to be much more expensive for them.

If they want to do atomic swaps for practically free, I'll be ready.

When do e directly with a peer, it's the only way balancing should be done. Everything else is a circle jerk. An endless round robin circle jerk.

I'm not talking about using Boltz. 👇

https://github.com/ElementsProject/peerswap

You should take a look at the paths on your circular balances, they will involve other nodes you're not even connected to but are connected to your peers and those channels are the ones that you need for routing too.

No, for example if you and I have an out of balance channel and I needed to say move 2M sats to your side. If I circular balanced that id have to do any times with dozens of htlcs scattered all over the place while the two channels I'm trying balance may get there, all the other channels that use get screwed.

If I swapped in it would be one payment between you and me, would be atomic and if we used Liquid, it might cost a few pennies.

Stuck HTLCs contribute greatly to force closes frreom these unnecessary circular routes and all your doing is balancing your channel but you knocking your peers other channels out balance and you need them for payments too so circular balancing really accomplishes nothing.

Swapping in or out using peerswap and Liquid is practically free and you don't fuck over your peers.

If you're using circular rebalancing right now in this high fee environment. Not only are your fucking over your peers, you're probably the cause of a lot these force closes. Fucking STOP IT or learn to swapin/out with liquid.