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I am not concerned about lack of freedom of speech of non citizens.

We cannot have a nation if we allow non citizens to come in, protest, and try to destroy the country that they aren't citizens or a part of.

Just as I don't have this right in other places, they shouldn't here.

The supreme court is wrong about rights of non citizens for a hundred years now.

Would love to see a constitutional amendment calling this out we also need to go back to land owners being the only ones able to vote. Let's do that one while we are at it.

Bitcoin hit almost 6.9x it's 2022 low, lol. Bitcoin has never existed in a global contraction and a flat US M2.

Well what's the answer? Kidding

I don't know what that means. Following the big tech stocks? No. Following macro? Yes.

You are correct, however missing a few key distinctions.

If going literal, Congress didn't make a law or throw the guy in jail. The DOJ did.

But courts have ruled of course it applies to states, cities, and lots of other things not just Congress.

The key distinction here is that when not a citizen, rather a visa, green card, etc.. you are required to sign on the dotted line with lots of different stipulations. End dates, status, background info, checkina, tax requirements, and on and on. It isn't about the right to free speech, it is about violating the terms of your stay.

Currently, in this one case, the argument is he lied or didn't disclose his background. I'm not saying that's true or not, FYI.

Citizens are supposed to get their rights not trampled on, others do not have such a guarantee. Hence why deportations are a thing.

We simply cannot allow people from other countries to come here, use speech to drum support, then tear down the nation. That's fucking asinine and the opposite of what we should be encouraging.

And no, they shouldn't be holding him for jonteason, he should be deported immediately and status terminated.

This is about recent free speech cases and issues though, not the immigration status and rights of a non citizen.

Visa/green card is not really any different. Still have to play by sec of state and other federal department rules as part of the program.

He's a terrorist. He's not some dude on the street. He tried to extort and help a group of violent political operatives and students. That's domestic terrorism.

And yes, I do not believe non citizens get all the same rights while a guest in a country that is not their home. 💯

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Mahmoud_Khalil

In a way you're technically correct as he was detained without any charges at all.

Am I supposed to Google it for you?

Hahaha. Wtf? He isn't a citizen. He is a visa holder and the same rules don't apply. It is part of the application and approval.

A temp visa holder cannot say whatever they want, duh.

He is a terrorist sympathizer and anti us.. That's an easy ass way to be deported if you ask me.

That's not an answer or example. It's a lazy argument akin to Google it. I don't know of any in the past decade. You seem to.

Like who? I don't follow. There hasn't been someone jailed for exceeding free speech for any real length of time for decades.

I don't mean a bad cop or mayor or whatever, but time and time again, comthe courts always rule in favor of speech in the cities, states, and supreme court.

Huh? You can absolutely without question call a public official names.

Do people see a lot of spam?? I am not even sure I get 1 or 2 a day. Compared to other platforms or X, that's childs play.