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no mental model will separate the cronies from the system of production that empowers them with so much control over our lives. wealth accumulation in the form of profit will always be hoarded on the backs of laborers that don't have a say over how they can earn a living. whether they work for a state agency or a pure capitalist, a workers time on this planet as a live human being is commodified on a balance sheet for an employer. you are either an employer, or an employee in this society.

i said "should" once. I'm echo-ing what organized labor is demanding from those that exploit the fact that under capitalism they need to sell an increasing amount of hours of their livelihoods to the capitalists for wages to then be able to pay other capitalists for basic needs like housing, food, and healthcare. gulag?? please the u.s. imprisons the most humans out of any other state actor for not falling in line with the private property or capital order doctrines. u.s. prison labor for the u.s. corporations. diverting attention from the content of what I am saying so you don't have to confront the ideas.

ahhh its not?? why don't I own what I produce in the 8 hours of my shift? why does all of that surplus go to a CEO?

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can you flesh out a little better what you mean by "mixes" in the context of labor as an economic input of capitalism by the employer/capitalist class? plantation owners also mix their economic goods (land, accumulated wealth, tools aka CAPITAL) with labor (slaves) to yield economic goods like sugar, cotton, etc.

the centralized, dominating power that your boss/the CEO/the capitalist, has over the laborers in the enterprise for the duration of their shifts mirrors the governments of facist dictators in their weaponization of state power to subvert political processes and maintain this fundamental 2 class caste system. the boss/capitalist literally takes all of the fruits of your labor, sells it at a markup, and breaks you off a crumb (a wage) for an hour of your time. if you speak out against this injustice or try to organize your workplace for better working conditions, capital and the state are there to make sure you stay in line. like the slave asked themselves every day in the morning "do i go in and do the master's bidding, or tell him i need a sick day and risk 50 lashes?" the employee every morning has to ask "do i go in and give this extremely wealthy capitalist with way more favorable life circumstances than me the product of 8+ entire hours of my labor in exchange for a minimum wage, or do i forgo my financial obligations this month and get evicted or lose my kids?" where is the liberty in this economic model of production? wage slavery is not good. more and more people are having to work longer hours to afford the basics for their families. the capitalists ship jobs to poorer nations to exploit their circumstances in the name of minimizing labor costs, further fueling the class divide in those nations. we are not happy with this arrangement and the way its deteriorating our qualities of life. meanwhile the capitalists are as wealthy as they have ever been since the years leading up to the great depression.

the national socialist workers party aka the nazi's were anti-communist af. these facist dictators, are no better examples of "Marxist/collectivist" ideals than the united states "Democratic" party is of "democratic" ideals as they habitually subvert democratic/political processes via the commodification of policy (lobbying of corporate backed interest groups/PACs etc) and the deployment of state power and capital for regime change in the rest of the world, particularly in Latin America/Caribbean nations.

we need to move to more localized models of production that prioritize decentralized control of surplus by the laborers vs centralization of power in a capitalist. whether thats a service that you need to get licensed to be able to provide or a collectively owned public intstruments like the public bank in north dakota, u.s. (which weathered the 07 08 recession admirably). we have businesses cooperatively owned and operated by prisoners in Puerto Rico. there is a coop bakery called Arizmendi in oakland california (look up who Arizmendi was) and a dope coop grocery called Rainbow in san francisco too. many successful examples of cooperatively operated enterprise ran by commies currently exist and have existed throughout the world. they are dwarfed, unfortunately, by the centralized, facist employers (the capitalists and the state who does their bidding) who "employ" the vast majority of the planet and been peeling back worke's' collective gains post WW2 and in the united states are literally coordinating a challenge to the constitutionality of the national labor board right now...is that unbelievable?

this is a critique of capitalism. not reflected in the original image you shared.

Replying to Avatar GrumpyGardener

This argument is old and stale. Capitalism has it's faults but there is no alternative that has yielded better results.

You can attack capitalism and the "anarcho-capitalisy types", but what you can't do is come up with a viable alternative with a track record of success.

Your ideas are not new. They are Marxist and Marxism has always created the absolute most corrupt governments in the world with a 2 class system. Indeed, a 2 class system is the heart of Marxism and it always ends with impoverished masses.

If you don't like rothbard, the try skousen. He's written two books that are relevant to this conversation. The Naked Communist, and the Naked Capitalist.

Socialists love monopolies because they can lift up champions under the guide of capitalism and continue to espouse more government as the solution. It's always the state that created the unfair advantage in the industry, and then seeks to regulate. Ayn Rand is another author that speaks on this extensively.

The state is always the enemy of the people. they have a monopoly on force. It's their only tool and the state will always choose a controllable champion to prop up in order to control an industry.

Many of them things you are saying are true. But only partially so because you can see the puppet, but fail to see the strings.

There is no liberty without economic freedom. Economic Freedom, or the freedom to transact at will, is your natural state. The state can not give you that, but they can certainly take it away and replace it with an illusion. That illusion, still traps your mind.

both of yall and the creator of the image above are skating past the questions of labor as private property aka wage slavery and wealth concentration. im just letting yall know that those who critique capitalism are not talking about anything on that list but instead concerned with the fact that labor, housing, health, and policy are commodified under capitalism to create terrible conditions for youth and families to thrive as well as a massive wealth gap between those at the top and us. only a state forged by the CEOs maintains that contradiction.

marxist economics emerged as a critique to the 2 class caste system (the class that hoards capital via the commodification of labor and policy and the working class AKA the haves and the have nots). by regurgitating conservative talking points about what marxism is or isnt and putting me in a category of not being able to think outside of the "shell" of capitalism, you're displaying an inability to engage in a rigorous debate about models of production in society. only when structural incentives change in these production models will the state dissolve and the world move beyond capitalism / socialism to something better. economic freedom should not be reserved only for the capitalists. the laborers deserve it too. we deserve a choice in selling our labor to a CEO, the epitome of centralized power, or using it to better our communities.

that whole absolutism about there being no alternative to capitalism is also disingenous. global capitalism has been mad unstable in the last couple hundred years. along with periodic recessions caused by the excess surplus in production, it had to be saved by SOCIALISM during the great depression via the new deal as well as the 07 - 08 financial crisis via bank bailouts. within these "cycles" of capitalism lies turmoil and tragedy for the every day family. i know people that know people that killed themselves when they lost everything in 07-08.

the puppet masters are the CEOs who exploit the economic model of production to maintain a hegemony over the world and its institutions. these are the same puppet masters that inspired facist dictators through Latin America, Europe, and southeast Asia over the last century to weaponize the state to maintain a two class caste system (laborer aka exploitee and employer/state aka exploiters) in their coutries and squash all dissent.

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What you are describing is not about capitalism or other systems, it's way more fundamental than that. Youre describing having two conflicting need, scarce resources, and limited time: "spend a week generating resources I save for the future" vs "use saved resources while I care of a sick loved one this week" - whether the former one here is working on your own farm, building your own shack, volunteering at the community center (to "earn" social trust), doing a task for someone else, or going to a factory to get paid for hourly labor.

There's no escaping the fact that one (or a collective) must generate a surplus of energy to store if one wants to be able spend any time NOT merely generating energy 100% of their time. Either that surplus is owned by individuals and they're free to generate it and use it how they see fit, or it's owned by some collective entity. In the latter case, some system for the contribution, distribution and physical protection of the shared savings is required - and there's no way to make those systems in such a way that's fair to all and not liable to capture and prone to violence.

You're not critiquing capitalism, you're upset at the existence of the fundamental mathematics of scarce resources. I agree - it's a bummer that we don't have infinite resources. But we don't. and we have to find the best way to handle that fact in a way that doesn't result in constant conflict.

For what it's worth, technological development driven by the engine of profit-seeking capitalism - stunted though it is by State intervention - is brining about the closest thing we've ever seen to "infinite resources". Quality of life goes up while prices come down. A smartphone from 10 years ago is basically free now while it was mind-blowing when it came out. Strangers can have conversations about capitalism across the globe at light speed without censorship. A relatively "poor" kid by today's standards can start a podcast nearly for free... We should expect this to continue to the limits of physics - IF we let it and don't fuck it up with collectivism. You want your infinite resources and perfect equity? Embrace progress and private property.

our critique of capitalism is the inefficient use of resources (including LABOR), not the lack of infinite resources, which labor isnt. capitalism, the current system of distribution of surplus, has been extremely unbalanced for a long time. hours of labor should be used for the betterment of the community, not the surplus of a single CEO. the quality of life measures you are describing (telecomm infrastructure) are a single bullet point in a long list of quality of life measures by the WHO. in the u.s. more is spent on health care per person than other countries and they have the worst health outcomes. price of health care has gone UP, health outcomes has gone DOWN. CEO profit continues to skyrocket. corporate landlords keep housing out of reach for families, leading to an increase in folk sleeping on the street. wealth has not been this concentrated in the world since the years leading up to the great depression. this is the distribution of surplus energy you defend?

housing and care for the sick and babies are unavoidable fundamental elements of people's lives that are commodified and left to the market under capitalism. if capitalism wasnt demanding that we spend more time away from our families than in the home with them? would places like the u.s. have as many single parent households as they do right now? would there be a need to institutionalize the elderly or developmentally disabled in homes if capitalism didnt demand an army of wage slaves spend the majority of their limited time in existence physically building a fortune for the CEOs? its inhumane to boil human beings down to hours of wage slave labor for the CEO's profits and disengenuous to use words like liberty to justify it as if people have a choice to participate in the labor or not.

because the image you shared doesnt touch on any of this, it wont help any critic of capitalism understand why capitalism is not the problem in society today. capitalism and its agents, pure or crony, seek to build a profit off the backs of others just like the plantation owners.

anarchocapitalist libertarian types like rothbard seek to maintain the individual liberty to accumulate capital off the backs of their employees that labor for them. and not every state is like the united states, an oligarchy carefully crafted to shield capitalists from any accountability for their individual profit motives AKA socialism for the capitalists. its a state born from european colonization, the mass enslavement and purging of non whites, expropriation of indigenous lands, and imperial domination. where is the justice for all those who had their individual liberties trampled upon by the capitalists in the name of a profit motive? those who critique capitalism are critiquing the master slave relationship between those with accumulation of capital and those without.

the state is also not the only licensing entity for professions. i.e. cisco, bar association, etc. another example of corporations empowered by the state to create optimal market conditions for their machine to continue to accumulate capital of the backs of laborers. licensing systems are just as much about who they are trying to keep out of professions as much as they are about getting people into them.

i just dont agree that nobody is enslaved to a paycheck. people dont have a choice to not go to work when they got kids or a sick parent at home. not being able to afford housing is not a choice. when folks critique capitalism, we are critiquing the fact that we have to sell our labor to a capitalist for wages to sustain ourselves and those we are socially responsible for.

im all for the abolition of the state that maintains class antagonism but its disengenous to let these CEOs off so easily considering the wealth gap has only increased and programs for the people have been dialed back in return for socialism for the capitalists (more capitalism) in the form of tax cuts and other favorable conditions for the mixing of "labor with resources" AKA the accumulation of CAPITAL. wealth has not been this concentrated since the years before the great depression. people are not so free as you are suggesting.

mmmm agree with you there that most of us are def not free. i dont think the state is doing the rigging though. historically capitalists created the current system by rigging it via lobbying and campaign donations...and by enslaving everyone to a paycheck. master => slave, lord ==> serf, employer => employee. hasnt always been that way, dosnt have to be now. we want democratically ran workplaces, not despots profitting off our backs.

hmmm when we say capitalism is the problem, what we are getting at is the mass wage enslavement of the working/employee class by the capitalists/the employers i.e. those who hoard capital, business owners, the state and the actors that make up its apparatus). selling your labor to a capitalist is not voluntary because if you dont you'll end up on the street. all the state does is maintain a low minimum wage for the capitalists to be able to keep their profits and pay off the politicians, thus keeping our collective liberation from being achieved.

I've been learning about the Podcasting 2.0 movement lately. Its a response to the closed nature of the podcasting ecosystem cultivated by big tech over the last couple of decades. RSS, the original "feed", got an upgrade in 2020 that included a new set of tags that extends the fuctionality of podcasts within applications. These new tags enable chapters, transcripts, payment via bitcoin, and more.

I finally got around to setting up a Castopod instance this week to migrate over from Soundcloud a short podcast series I produced in college. I added the RSS feed to the Podcast Index and included a chapter. json file to test out the new features. Enjoy my amatuer podcast where uplift the good work youth organizers are doing for their communities and keep an eye our for more episodes.

https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6917581?episode=22924894185