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I will be headed to Tampa for this event as well -- if you're anywhere near enough that it makes sense to go, seems like it's going to be a great time for a great cause.

Agree on optionally combining the like and zap functionality. 👍

Right now I consistently hear people saying they don't use nostr much because it's mostly people who love nostr posting about nostr. Money is a strong incentivizer, maybe we can use it to incentivize the production of more diverse content here. 🙂

I am a big believer in the transactional potential of bitcoin, I also have high hopes for v4v. I just don't think v4v is being executed on effectively because of this mental overhead issue.

Some ideas about batching and the mental overhead associated with v4v:

Underlying perceived issue: the mental overhead associated with to-zap-or-not-to-zap still seems way too high to allow most individual content creators to benefit from v4v in a meaningful way.

Unless Nostr users are confronted with a request to zap, or are overwhelmingly impressed with an individual piece of content, and thus reminded to zap, human beings, being efficient, avoid the mental strain altogether and don't engage in the to-zap-or-not-to-zap decision making process and the mental energy that it requires.

Seems more productive that users be might allowed to opt-in to purchasing micro-bites of content over time, at a certain price, and of course are allowed to opt-out at any time. Like subscribing to a paid substack, but on a much smaller scale. An example of how this concept might work -- to be able to view a certain person's Nostr posts in an ongoing fashion, you agree to auto-zap 50 sats per post, with a max of 5 zaps per day, and/or a max of XXX sats per month, whatever makes sense. If they post more than that, you get to view those posts at no cost. If they post less than that, you only have to pay for what they do post. The content creator sets these prices with ongoing feedback from "the market".

If followers perceive the quality of a user's posts they've subscribed to going down, they hit the "unsubscribe" button. Subscribers periodically review their subscriptions and total amount spent on v4v content, and adjust their subscriptions according to the value they feel they are receiving.

Accounts to which users are subscribed are incentivized, but not overly-pressured, to produce quality content that others will enjoy consuming, and are rewarded for doing so. The market works out how much individual content creators should be paid, and at a higher level, incentivizes ongoing production of quality content.

Many users will still post at no cost, wanting their content to be freely available for ideological reasons, or because they don't want their reach limited in any way, or because it just doesn't make sense to attempt to charge for it, and this is of course 100% fine.

Not going to spend any more time thinking on this right now, just throwing it out there for consideration, feel free to hate on the concept as much as you want, LoL.

Some additional thoughts on why our model may resonate with people:

When you deeply care about something, you want to dig in to some degree and get your hands dirty, you want to verify instead of trusting. Having kids is an example I think of -- when most parents have to leave their kids at daycare, they don't want to just drop them off at the first facility they see and come back at the end of the day. They want to visit the place and make sure it seems clean and safe, they want to meet the adults that will be interacting with their kids, and make sure they seem compassionate, intelligent and responsible. They want to know about the daycare's policies and what learning models they implement. And over time they want to monitor these variables to make sure that there are no negative developments and that the same or better standards are being implemented.

Its the same with having a kid that might need an appendectomy; you don't just drop them off at the emergency room and say you'll be back next Tuesday when they're feeling better. You want to make sure you pick a good hospital and a doctor you feel like you can trust. You want to see evidence of the test results and make sure the root cause is being addressed, you want to stay with them most or all of the time to make sure they're being cared for. You'll still do web searches for the symptoms and treatments, to make sure everything sounds kosher. You want to talk to the surgeon and hear what they're going to do, and afterward how the procedure went. You can't do ALL of what needs to be done yourself, but you want to feel like you're invested and doing all of the due diligence.

There are a lot of bitcoiners that obviously care deeply about their long term savings. They don't want to blindly trust a company to give them an easy button, and often complicated and proprietary technologies that are difficult for them to understand or trust are used to arrive at an easy button -- at times "don't trust, verify" can fall apart or seem like too big of a leap.

Alternatively, SeedSigner presents them with a very simple toolset (so simple that they can mostly build it themselves and dig into the underlying details as deeply as they would like) and a basic set of bitcoin primatives that can be used to manage a secure cold storage setup. Its this putting more variables in the hands of users, not less, that allows them to feel more in control and have more confidence. Not everyone's cup of tea, but I think this helps to explain why some users feel so strongly about the SeedSigner model as a cold storage solution.

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Not sure if this will be an unpopular take but... Obscuring all of the technical detail from people holding private keys -- essentially giving them an "easy button" -- can often result in them feeling less confident about the keys because they don't have any sense of what's going under the hood. Letting them get their hands a little dirty, letting them work with bitcoin primatives (especially ones that are portable between different tools), can help to significantly increase the confidence with which people hold their keys.

These are fair points, just expressing that some of their marketing strategy has rubbed myself, and seemingly others, the wrong way. I would point to River and Unchained as having approaches more in line with how I feel marketing can effectively be better executed.

What you note about them widely bankrolling influencers under the guise of "advisor" roles is something I had noted as well -- their approach to marketing has felt superficial and their approach to growing a bitcoin business seems very high-time preference.

Was alerted by one of our contributors that our development fund received a ~22 million sat donation on Christmas day. What a wonderful gesture -- to whomever sent this, we immensely appreciate it! 🧡

Less price talk, more freedom talk.

"...I can feel your soul in this product."

It is indeed in there. 🫶

🧡 And to you too Jean!

The beauty of the Christmas story is that new beginnings are possible for all of us, no matter what mistakes we have made in the past. We all have the power to make a fresh start, in a more positive direction, should we lose our way. We don't have to be held captive by our worst moments -- hope and redemption are always possible.

The most sincere wishes for a Merry Christmas to all of you!

This is so cool! This keychain tether sent to me by Orange Manufacturing Group has our dev fund lnurl on the inside as a QR code, and an embedded NFC chip that links to https://seedsigner.com.

If you want to test out the QR code with your LN wallet, you know, just to make sure it works, I'm totally on board with that... 🤪

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Statements like this are what motivate myself and many of our contributors to continue to push forward.

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Thank you for recording this. 🙏

Just for accurate, the aluminum enclosure is by nostr:npub1l2xfcjd8k5l3c6mkpd95uptdnxcqw5yms0pz57l7v46qzgdju0msy96ndl. 🙂