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Enthusiast shitposter too lazy to argue I don’t identify as patriot There is only one nation #nostr

I am not sure I follow what you wrote.

I do see the necessity of free relays. I just don't see the benefit of paid ones as a "reduction of spam". If one uses free relays at the same time there would be spam anyway. But since i mainly look at posts of people I follow - I sort of prevent the spam myself.

And since the recommendation is to have just few relays. I don't see network effect of running private ones. it just does not make sense to join them.

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If you're a new Nostrich, you've now learned about relays, but you may still have questions, such as what the hell are paid relays?

Most paid relays only accept payments of Bitcoin via the Lightning network. Lightning is a fast, cheap and scalable solution for Bitcoin that makes paying for goods and services extremely easy. Wallet of Satoshi is probably one of the easiest options available for mobile users. If you're using a desktop computer, Alby is a great choice here. If you're looking for something a bit more advanced, you can try Phoenix Wallet, Mutiny Wallet, or Zeus. These three mobile options are best if you're looking to take full custody of your bitcoin.

Here are a couple recommended paid relays:

wss://eden.nostr.land

wss://relay.orangepill.dev

wss://nostr.milou.lol

wss://nostr.wine

wss://relay.bitblockboom.com

wss://relay.nostrplebs.com

Once you know which paid relays that you're going to try out or use, you'll want to visit their website, pay the admission fee, and add their relay address to your profile. Be sure to enable both read and write capabilities and then save or post the changes. That's it. Please note: The Nostr Plebs relay needs to be purchased via registering a nostr address at https://nostrplebs.com.

A list of paid nostr relays can be found here: https://relay.exchange

Why use a paid relay?

Spam mitigation

How do you get less spam on a paid relay? Many clients allow you to pick which relays to populate your global/universe feed. This essentially gives global/universe a pay wall, restricting content to paying users. Generally, paid relays have much less spam.

Pay for a service that you're using

Paying for a service just feels right. Infrastructure and server resources cost money. The people that run these pieces of nostr's infrastructure need to be paid for their work, time, and effort. This helps to keep nostr running and sustainable.

Should you only use paid relays?

I recommend using both free and paid relays for the best experience. This allows you to find and engage with new users as they join nostr. I also recommend not adding more than 12 relays to your profile. After that, your experience may start to slow down and you may experience other issues, depending on your client. The saying "less is more" applies here.

if using paid relays is reducing spam then using free ones brings it back so I am sort of confused on the advantages of either approach.

And I support the comment on centralisation.

Having a network of relays prevents censorship. Anyone can start a relay but whats' the point of nobody else is using it? I could post my heart out but nobody will see it until I won't use one of the big ones.

There seem to be something inherently broken with this approach.

so how would I use #nostr with #torbrowser?

I should not install any extensions, so how do I securely login?

is anyone using nostr this way?

#asknostr

I guess I am more interested in #nostr being more protective in privacy-vulnerable situations and reveling less of the metadata.

For example. if I want to hide my IP I need to go through VPN, tor or maybe tor through VPN.

That's kind of IT-heavy.

So I could use #torbrowser as an out-of the box solution.

But I should not install any extensions in the torbrowser, so how do I securely login to nostr then?

This should not be too difficult. say 15y prison sentence for expressing forbidden views.

Say the sentence is not executed under condition to keep quiet. Protocol cannot be censored. People can.

Just curious.

Are there any plans to increase #nostr #privacy?

Censorship resistant as a platform won’t help much in a long run.It is fairly easy to censor the person when identified. “Don’t use the DM” doesn’t really help much.

#asknostr

is anyone hosting/colocating their btc mining operations?

how does it work? is it worth it?

#plebchain

#bitcoin

#asknostr

Is @0xchat more private than the #nostr DM? Or it uses the same message type?

#asknostr