Divorce should be illegal with exceptions only for abuse or adultery. Adultery should carry the same penalties for domestic abuse.
Discussion
Counterpoint: government has no business interfering in private contracts between individuals. Marriage should not be a legal matter at all.
Countercounterpoint: as the arm of society interested in common goals it is imperative that it promote and support unions that form the basis for the perpetuation of society.
But correct that the government should be disinterested in any unions that can't or won't perpetuate society.
ie. Gay marriage is pointless.
Well, that ball got rolling long before when birth-control made us all think romance and marriage were for entertainment purposes.
Countercountercounterpoint: if it's imperative then how did people perpetuate society before governments?
Government's only role is to enforce contracts between consenting individuals. They got no business dictating the terms of the contract or changing those terms when the contract is violated. Both practices are so common for marriage contracts that people actually believe it's good and right. It is not.
What do you mean "before governments"
People have always been governed by those in society with power.
It is imperative that governments support the building blocks of the society they purport to serve. That does not imply that those building blocks require a government to support them.
I would argue that those marriages are better off in a supportive environment so it is mutually beneficial, but it is not a requirement.
In the other direction I don't think a society can last more than a handful of generations without marriage, thus from the governments perspective, it is absolutely imperative.
I can agree with this too. But it is a legal matter. So IF it's going to be, then it should be enforced in kind to what marriage actually means. Till death do you part.
You good, brotha?
Oh yea I'm great lol. This doesn't have anything to do with me personally. Lol. I was just watching band of Brothers recently and just thinking about how some women divorced their man overseas fighting in war and how that's got to be the shittiest thing a woman could ever do.
Yep! Agreed 💯
Amen.
Then men and women who would otherwise get married on a whim might reconsider.
As my wife nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qqs88rmcwwkzcm9hwq0rz5rpdt7gysmekyetgea6t2zzn4vkftcmzdsja0wnv would say, marriage is covenant.
Marriage is not a piece of paper.
No!
Freedom whether you like it or not.
This does not remove any freedom. No one is making anyone get married.
Divorce should be illegal? Enforced by who?
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The same people that enforce marriage now... Don't want to be married forever? Simple... Don't get married... No one is making anyone get married and marriage is supposed to be till death do you part. Not till I get bored do we part... Don't want to make the commitment for life? Then don't. I don't see the issue.
Insane take. People change. You could be with someone for 20 years and they become a shell of who they once were.. so what, you’re trapped forever. Fucking dumb.
Then don't get married? Marriage means forever. It doesn't mean when I don't like the other person like I used to. Through sickness and health. Sounds more like to me you don't know wtf marriage means. Again, no one's making anyone get married.
People do change, and when you're married, you have to deal with that. You have to work through that together. To give up is to reneg on your life long commitment. ie , you should have never made that commitment in the first place.
How old are you?
Why does that matter?
Cause it’s a juvenile take
What juvinile is not understanding what a commitment is and being okay with breaking your promises. Responsible people don't break promises.
I'm 32, happily married for a decade, only married once with 2 children. I'm not the oldest man in the world but I've been around the block and I've had my fair share of experiences with divorce on my family's life (mom, step dad, both aunts all divorced, my mom and step dad multiple times before they met.) Ie also had my fair share of my own marrital struggles but the only thing I love more than nostr:nprofile1qqsfg2spq35fak0xfwjn5lfumpn59h0ka4n8n3yux3d9fnlegyq9pxspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf0qydhwumn8ghj7amgv4shgtngv9c8q7t5v9mx2unw9e3k7tc04jwwg are my 2 children.
I'm not the wisest man on the planet, but I'm not juvinile and I'm not niaeve.
You are happy in your situation so you want to parade around and say dumb shit like it should be illegal to get divorced. I hope your marriage works, I hope you 2 stay together forever and grow together. But it’s a choice.
People change and that is between them how to handle it. Leave the govt or whoever you think will handle the legality of a marriage out of it.
It's a choice to get married. It shouldn't be to get divorced. Just like it's a choice to have sex but it's not a choice when a girl gets pregnant.
My opinion on divorce is not tied to my personal life. It's tied to what the word marriage means. It means forever. If you're not okay with forever, don't get married. It would prevent a lot of problems in society at large.
Ok. Good luck on your path