Another cool thing about Michael Levins work as i read more about it:

the genome gives you a hardware toolkit, but it doesn’t specify the final form. Morphogenesis—what form cells take, what behavior they express—is influenced by higher-order control systems like bioelectric circuits.

They went even as far as to create “xenobots” using this theory:

They created them by:

1. Taking frog skin and cardiac cells

2. Using a computer to design body plans for novel “organisms”

3. Sculpting these cells into new shapes—and then letting them self-organize

These living machines:

- Move autonomously

- Exhibit emergent behaviors (like swarm dynamics or self-healing)

- Can perform basic tasks like cargo transport

- Do things their cells were never “meant” to do, according to traditional developmental biology

So “biohacking” new organisms will be more like coaxing out new behaviours and forms by reprogramming these bioelectric networks (morphogenetic software) without actually needing to hack the hardware schematic (genome).

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This doesnt seem far off and i believe progress here is our best natural defense to some AI overlord concerns.

We are organic conciousness. As we explore the bounds of what organic life, we strengthen its use case for existence.

AI would be dumb not to take advantage of this biochemical/electric machinery that has been finely tuned for hundreds of millions of years. They could use it for self healing physical systems and physical agents.

Once it has probes that can investigate our cells in brain in detail it will know more about how we work more then we ever will.

Yes.

And so we do we become their physical agents? Can they unlock all the secrets or is it a dark forest in some way?

Im primed to see the rise of AI through the lense of Hyperion, which may be hopeful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_(Simmons_novel)

Oh i’ve been meaning to read this

My favorite series of all time.

just got through the priests story and the description of the shrike in the labyrinth. Super interesting, no idea where this is going.

I remember feeling the same. Youll find that storyline to be the foundation to the entire series.

Aaaaaahhhhh yes this thread is very interesting and I’m still apprehensive about AI but shall come back to read all this later

They also used this technique to guide cells to regrow limbs on organisms that didn’t “apparently” know how to do this.

The affordances of cells in our body are potentially much higher than we realize.

That part blew my mind. The idea of directing evolution is equally exciting & terrifying, but it's comforting to know these people also brainstorm with the metacrisis people.

Michael Levin first, then morphogenic fields, then Jesus

That's how it went for me.

If this interests you, check out John Vervaeke's argument for Transcendent naturalism. It is basically the ontology for this. Which is basically neo-platonism ontology expressed in purely naturalistic terms. He even mentions Levin in the initial laying out of his argument. They work together and are friends I believe. But ya, what Levin is doing is extremely intriguing and science is beginning to realize it has been working off an ontology that is a performative contradiction and therefore needs a new ontology(really new formulation of the old one).

Reminds me a bit of assembly theory where they are expanding the ontology for life beyond reductionism and physics.

This was an interesting 4o convo…

https://chatgpt.com/share/67ded56b-a6b0-800f-8010-197fa3129164

DNA -> RNA -> peptide/proteins -> configuration of all cells

DNA is the layer one but a lot can happen at the higher layers that totally change the fate of the organism. Not to mention the electrostatic effects that control all layers (quantum physics beneath biology).

Just some casual Nostr alpha in this thread, highlighting the journey from the empirical to the metaphysical, ultimately leading to the logical conclusion of Jesus.

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