FYI I meant to say that moving away from Apple devices isnโ€™t the *short term* solution. There will be no overnight flood into Android or open source because Apple wonโ€™t allow Nostr apps.

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There won't be a flood into bitcoin because everyone wakes up to the need for FOSS money either. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't work tirelessly to move the entire world out of the walled cages as fast as possible. As for the ones that continue to use it after hearing the truth you have to eventually just let them HFSP.

We can't even get bitcoiners to use self custodial lightning, no way they're giving up their iPhones

Too true, but as an aside, is there an open source mobile phone?

One way would be to flood Apple with our thoughts on how this should all work (not bitching about it though, keep that in Nostr)

I genuinely suspect some of this is a lack of awareness and giving them a collective nudge could help.

https://feedbackassistant.apple.com

It worked on that kid that made the 'skull of satoshi' right?

The last apple product I owned was a computer in 1998. I don't own any apple products on purpose. My wife owns the ear Bluetooth pod things and she likes them. But that's it. I've been using Android since 2009? Before that it was Palm devices from 1997.

Apple products just want you to stay in the walled garden. Apple has BSD and Android is Linux. Apple is a status product. It's a lifestyle. It's a signal to others that you are with it. It's comical.

At Best Buy I used to set up stores and displays. Apple always has special people do theirs. We would set up all the others except Samsung. I know many people with iPhones who are convinced that their world would fall apart without their apple products.

Android, on the other hand with Google solved the issue of contacts, calendars and that was a big boon. If I break my phone I can get a cheap phone and get my contacts back.

All my important data can be synchronized with syncthing like passwords, photos... And that is no good service. I imagine my contacts could too.

I can export my contacts and calendar and save them. But I look Google calendar and contacts.

At work last year they have me an ipad and phone. I hated it. Contacts were in three places, rules for access were arbitrary.

I just used my personal phone. Time for employees was required but in the field the ipad had no service so I just did my time sheets at home from a Linux computer.

I haven't used a Windows computer since 2010. I've used Linux since 1999.

Like all other things I've even considered getting a dumb phone because Why do I need it. Yet I'm on a small tugboat on the water wiring this at lunch. Who knows?