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I don’t wanna get too ahead of myself but we may be about to see a major public reckoning on what on earth banks even are and what they are supposed to do.

SVB didn’t go down due to “the tech bubble” or really anything to do with “banking Silicon Valley” being a bad idea. if anything, it’s a great idea! Their deposits went up ~2.5x in 2 years because there was a shit load of cash that needed to be banked! (debate separately to what extent that was a ZIRP phenomenon. I’m not saying this was good in the grand scheme of things. just that, in context, it was good business).

the problem is what to put the money in. most nocoiners seem to think that their deposits just sit there “as money,” and although I’m sure they don’t imagine notes in a vault, exactly, to a large extent that was true for SVB: they held treasuries - the “risk free” asset lmfao - which is as close to cash as you can get in a liquid security.

the conundrum here is that there literally is no such thing as “liquid dollars” - there is only credit. all dollar assets are somebody else’s debt. for all intents and purposes, treasuries *are dollars*. the idea of “keeping it in cash” at the relevant magnitudes is literally nonsensical. what would it even mean? deposit it at *another bank*? that hardly solves the problem!

the further you tug at this thread, the more you realise that dollars can only really be defined as vacuous promises by the US government to … one day give you slightly more dollars?!? that realisation is now getting aired in public.

I think the first consequence as this starts to sink in will be a massive preference for shorter term debt that can just be rolled over and over and over because the lesson of SVB is the duration sensitivity is absolutely not worth it. you can literally evaporate hundreds of billions of dollars by getting that just a little wrong even though you didn’t have much of a choice (“RISK FREE ASSET” LOLOLOLOLOLOL) this is yet another example of fiat driving up time preference and corrupting the information signals necessary to coordinate long-term capital investment. but oh well, the currency is collapsing so we have bigger fish to fry than the yield of long-dated bonds 😂

but the juicy bit is that we may be on the cusp of this reasoning, and the insanity of fractional reserve and central banking, finally being aired in public as people try to make sense of all this.

or maybe not, I dunno. maybe I’m naive. but I’m also bullish 🤙

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It’s interesting. If inflation keeps going down (like it did for 40 years), you make way more “money” by sitting in the longest duration bond you can own. But when inflation starts getting higher than the average yield on bonds, you NEED to own the shortest duration debt that’s issued to protect against impairment. Lots of country club executives about to learn that lesson the hard way.

But to your much bigger point, Allen…The whole system is a giant Ponzi. To navigate this lie (especially at this point), you need to have a really deep understanding of how the fiat lie works. Most business owners are focused on their operations, not outpacing the fierce debasement and unwind of an 80 year globally constructed fiat credit farce.

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Powell has been pumping rates for over a year. Why didn’t SVB convert their long term debt to shorter term earlier and waited till now? Doesn’t make any sense.

I think they probably expected a recession by now, in which they would offload their longer duration debt when rates reset lower (I think all these banks are in the exact same boat, just a couple steps behind SVB).

SVB dumped their bonds now and took a 1.8B loss, who took the other side? If rates continue to go higher, wouldn’t they be faced with the same problem? Why would a 1.8B hole trigger a bank run on a bank with 200B in assets?

The person taking the other side - gets a discount.. there's lots of money out there believe it or not - but not a lot of opportunities to deploy it (bitcoin isn't an opportunity as it's the enemy of the current administration).

Greed

Asleep at the wheel...

Hard to sell at a loss. So they probably thought they could manage to hold the long dated bonds to maturity. But then the depositors came asking for cash and they had to realize the losses.

Can’t taper a ponzi

I want to explain this to friends and family but i never do a good job. Do you have a specific podcast that covers this so I can show them? Or any podcast works too.

Preston. Can you explain the connection to Country Clubs Executives, are they involved in bonds for some reason?

This is why it’s important to understand the curve, and to understand what it’s telling you.

Rates tell you everything, most specifically risk.

But, you have to view the rates in relative terms. Relative to whatever the base rate option is and the make assumptions based on that.

For instance the recent absolute collapse and massacre in the 2yr yld is telling you that the market perceives they’ll kick the can, IMO. But, it will likely take a while (1-2yr) to work through. So, investors bid up the longest part of that duration as possible and did so hard.

At the same time, they weren’t nearly as willing to go much further out on the curve- 10s, 20s, 30s. And weren’t as interested in the super short stuff. The 6mo was still at 4.88 today. So, they didn’t come in too short either, because the expectation is this will take longer to work through.

Just as every other crisis, it takes months to years to work through all the collapses and mergers. They play out slowly, not all at once.