I don’t wanna get too ahead of myself but we may be about to see a major public reckoning on what on earth banks even are and what they are supposed to do.

SVB didn’t go down due to “the tech bubble” or really anything to do with “banking Silicon Valley” being a bad idea. if anything, it’s a great idea! Their deposits went up ~2.5x in 2 years because there was a shit load of cash that needed to be banked! (debate separately to what extent that was a ZIRP phenomenon. I’m not saying this was good in the grand scheme of things. just that, in context, it was good business).

the problem is what to put the money in. most nocoiners seem to think that their deposits just sit there “as money,” and although I’m sure they don’t imagine notes in a vault, exactly, to a large extent that was true for SVB: they held treasuries - the “risk free” asset lmfao - which is as close to cash as you can get in a liquid security.

the conundrum here is that there literally is no such thing as “liquid dollars” - there is only credit. all dollar assets are somebody else’s debt. for all intents and purposes, treasuries *are dollars*. the idea of “keeping it in cash” at the relevant magnitudes is literally nonsensical. what would it even mean? deposit it at *another bank*? that hardly solves the problem!

the further you tug at this thread, the more you realise that dollars can only really be defined as vacuous promises by the US government to … one day give you slightly more dollars?!? that realisation is now getting aired in public.

I think the first consequence as this starts to sink in will be a massive preference for shorter term debt that can just be rolled over and over and over because the lesson of SVB is the duration sensitivity is absolutely not worth it. you can literally evaporate hundreds of billions of dollars by getting that just a little wrong even though you didn’t have much of a choice (“RISK FREE ASSET” LOLOLOLOLOLOL) this is yet another example of fiat driving up time preference and corrupting the information signals necessary to coordinate long-term capital investment. but oh well, the currency is collapsing so we have bigger fish to fry than the yield of long-dated bonds 😂

but the juicy bit is that we may be on the cusp of this reasoning, and the insanity of fractional reserve and central banking, finally being aired in public as people try to make sense of all this.

or maybe not, I dunno. maybe I’m naive. but I’m also bullish 🤙

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A wise man once said that only the strong survive.

Allen Iverson 😉

Adapt or die.

Just bought another million sats

My thoughts exactly. Dirty bank math is going to get aired in the general public.

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It’s interesting. If inflation keeps going down (like it did for 40 years), you make way more “money” by sitting in the longest duration bond you can own. But when inflation starts getting higher than the average yield on bonds, you NEED to own the shortest duration debt that’s issued to protect against impairment. Lots of country club executives about to learn that lesson the hard way.

But to your much bigger point, Allen…The whole system is a giant Ponzi. To navigate this lie (especially at this point), you need to have a really deep understanding of how the fiat lie works. Most business owners are focused on their operations, not outpacing the fierce debasement and unwind of an 80 year globally constructed fiat credit farce.

Powell has been pumping rates for over a year. Why didn’t SVB convert their long term debt to shorter term earlier and waited till now? Doesn’t make any sense.

I think they probably expected a recession by now, in which they would offload their longer duration debt when rates reset lower (I think all these banks are in the exact same boat, just a couple steps behind SVB).

SVB dumped their bonds now and took a 1.8B loss, who took the other side? If rates continue to go higher, wouldn’t they be faced with the same problem? Why would a 1.8B hole trigger a bank run on a bank with 200B in assets?

The person taking the other side - gets a discount.. there's lots of money out there believe it or not - but not a lot of opportunities to deploy it (bitcoin isn't an opportunity as it's the enemy of the current administration).

Greed

Asleep at the wheel...

Hard to sell at a loss. So they probably thought they could manage to hold the long dated bonds to maturity. But then the depositors came asking for cash and they had to realize the losses.

Can’t taper a ponzi

I want to explain this to friends and family but i never do a good job. Do you have a specific podcast that covers this so I can show them? Or any podcast works too.

Preston. Can you explain the connection to Country Clubs Executives, are they involved in bonds for some reason?

This is why it’s important to understand the curve, and to understand what it’s telling you.

Rates tell you everything, most specifically risk.

But, you have to view the rates in relative terms. Relative to whatever the base rate option is and the make assumptions based on that.

For instance the recent absolute collapse and massacre in the 2yr yld is telling you that the market perceives they’ll kick the can, IMO. But, it will likely take a while (1-2yr) to work through. So, investors bid up the longest part of that duration as possible and did so hard.

At the same time, they weren’t nearly as willing to go much further out on the curve- 10s, 20s, 30s. And weren’t as interested in the super short stuff. The 6mo was still at 4.88 today. So, they didn’t come in too short either, because the expectation is this will take longer to work through.

Just as every other crisis, it takes months to years to work through all the collapses and mergers. They play out slowly, not all at once.

The perpetual bankruptcy of banks is starting to leak into the minds of nocoiners

Be bullish, but don’t expect this to penetrate normies

GM cautious optimism my old friend

As long as central banks exist all kind of nonsensical things are possible as you have an undefaultable entity which can strong arm banks to behave certain way couple bad behaviour and maintan market delusion. Without central banks, when local bank directors/managers are being stupid they would go bankrupt and no one else would care.

Your post is getting a lot of likes and reposts.

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What is member.cash?

> the "risk free" asset Imfao

🤣🤣🤣 i love you allen

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“dollars can only really be defined as vacuous promises by the US government to … one day give you slightly more dollars”

if nothing else, we have tangible examples to teach a whole new generation about the inherent fragility of fractional reserve banking.

i don’t think the lessons of 2008 resonated with younger people who didn’t live through it and most assumed the 10s of 1000s of pages of regulation that followed 08 “fixed” the shortcomings of the system.

they now need to start questioning these assumptions… or they may just go back to netflix and tiktok next week, i don’t know 🤷🏻‍♂️

SVB failings is that they didn't try to unwind their positioning with shorter duration bonds.... it doesn't take a genius to realise that if you have a portfolio of assets yielding 1.5% and you can now get 3% mark to market, that portfolio is going to take a hair cut.. They fucked up laddering their duration so could argue they were asleep at the wheel here. Fed want's unemployment, war still rages in Ukraine, EU still has no energy security. No matter where you look.. citadels are burning. For us coiners, we need a bank that act's as what he have here in the UK a building society just for bitcoin - with a stable coin that allows us to transfer value from the physical realm to the digital realm without any fud attached to it... Too many bitcoiner's cheering as the house burns down not realising that house is invariably linked to their future prosperity.

Probably not a massive wave of public education but certainly will sink in with many. As I understand it, the CEO and CFO of SVB are being criticized for not purchasing a small inflation hedge product that would have guarded against losses they’ve incurred on investments. Not my area of expertise but being positioned as something any competent funds manager should have known and done.

Fiat dollar has always been an IOU. This IOU used to be redeemable by gold, but after leaving the gold standard, it is only redeemable for "value" backed by faith in the US government. Fiat dollar by definition is a bearer debt instrument (with a negative yield aka inflation). For every dollar you hold, the US government owes you a dollar of value.

Would you be happy to lend/trust your value to someone who owes $31.6trn and only generates $23trn in value a year?

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Nah I don’t think the public is going to see “Silicon Valley Bank“ go down and have a very deep and complicated, reckoning about banking when right in front of their face is the observation that silicon valley is a perennial producer of obnoxious hype bubbles by obnoxious people, it’s a largely unregulated place where the tech bros declare they’re above the law because they got $1 billion in funding from some founders who think they are saving humanity by creating an app, I think we will reckon with all of this sort of obnoxiousness before we get into the nuances of what a dollar actually is or what a dollar actually represents.

that has literally nothing to do with what happened here. you are being distracted by a laser pen.

Do you think the public who is going to provide this massive reckoning is not distracted by the same laser pen?

I read this from Australia's national broadcaster yesterday. Getting warmer.

"If you really want to point the finger, why not at the governments that rescued multinational finance corporations in 2008 and 2009 after they ran into big trouble as a result of taking on too much risk?

It enhanced what economists call moral hazard.

We now see more monopolies with the power to set consumer prices as they choose, and monopsony power, as Treasury research has recently showed, may explain why wage growth is stuck at low levels."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-11/housing-crisis-cost-of-living-personal-debt/102077818

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The big secret finally getting out?

I just realised something very amusing.

amidst all the nonsense of CPI, M2/3/4, QE, Fed balance sheet, etc - all the other crap that obscures any sensible or straightforward gauge of “creating more money” - there is in fact such a way:

***exactly what happens to the price of treasuries when they try to delever***

per the quoted note from the other day, there is literally no such thing as “a dollar” at the scale relevant to the banking system other than government debt. if a financial institution wants exposure to dollars (risk free lololololol) they need treasuries. the damage done by this shitstorm is directly evidenced by the price of treasuries tanking - that’s a perfect snapshot of the capital that has been consumed by artificially low rates and is now being crystallized - and *not even* the real amount, just the differential to the new, fake, still-too-low cost of capital.

the real amount is yet to be discovered, but that gap is best interpreted as reality forcing its way back into prices as much as the central planners will allow.

so extrapolate that to wherever else treasuries have already been levered (shades of LDI, btw - literally the same problem AGAIN in different stupid guise) then extrapolate THAT to what the cost of capital should really be, and you’ll have some mildly more numerical grasp of what we are heading into. that is, more numerical than “oh shit oh fuck oh no”, which is also a fair response.

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Not sure anyone outside of these circles really cares tbh. I sent this note to some buddies thinking “this time they’re going to get it.” A couple of them own businesses with over $250k in the bank. Crickets for the crazy bitcoin guy as usual.

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called it!

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Sauce?

What did you call?

these conversations are happening everywhere and it’s only been a week!

Yes. Agreed, I just couldn’t tell what you were referring to.

The “impossible” or “conspiracy” continues to become reality.

These things take months if not years to unwind. They go in waves.

Process of kicking the can down the road: Initial collapse/issue > short term resolution > unintended consequence > additional failures / mergers > rule changes > new normal.

my prediction is coming true: cash is coming out of fractional reserve banks and going into money market funds, which is to say there is a spontaneous maturity *rematching* occurring as people start to seriously wonder what their money even is.

there is no good answer, but the least bad answers involve rolling short-term credit such that if you *have to* hold an unsecured liability, it may as well be liquid and it may as well be “backed” by a solvent entperise, if not the literal money printer.

(all of which is totally fine for pricing long term capital allocation, btw, TOTALLY FINE)

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1644335648063537153

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The money in the money market fund is still held in banks somewhere tho

the assets are short term corporate and government debt, not bank liabilities.

Sometimes I feel the world is just too big and crazy to understand..just in need of simplicity and lots of love

Why hold money with the bank and have counterpart risk? Not saying I agree. But if you can hold it in Treasuries with the implicit guarantee that the US Government will never default that seems a safer option 🤷‍♂️

1. Most “money” is credit

2. The “US Dollar” is a ponzi