Sort of disconcerting, watching videos of persons talking about how "their people" have always been in #Gaza, when they're blonde, blue-eyed, and have a last name like Schmidt or Bergen.
They're probably less semetic than I am. Fresh off the boat. Literally, probably. And the fanatical rantings... it's like...
They aren't helping their case. 🤦🏻♀️
Nuke israel
No. Nuclear weapons shouldn't even exist.
Well they do, and this is a just cause
No, it isn't. You need to drop that line of thought. Not all Israeli citizens support this genicide. Just like how there are an abundance of Jewish people in other countries who don't.
All I’ve seen is an abundance of israelis in other countries pretending to be anything but israelis.
It’s a parasitic nation and someone’s you have you burn out parasites.
Nuke israel.
Actually, they don’t even pretend to not be Israelis, they just have retards like you defending them.
The problem with nukes is that the fallout then travels around the world poisoning everyone. So no, do not nuke Israel. Just move Jews somewhere... Madagascar? Siberia? Lots of pleny space there.
No it doesn’t.
Modern nuke technology has no fall out.
Don’t speak if you’re fucking retarded.
🙄Gtfo! The radiation spread will kill more than the blast itself. You're either trolling or you genuinely believe that load of crap.
"Just move Jews somewhere" LOL like we're your pawns to move away to appease some Islamists for your geopolitical interests.
British Colonialism is over, we don't take orders from Europeans.
Islamists?
Fuck off.
You’ve overstayed your welcome in every country you’ve visited.
The peoples of every nation are on to your parasitic nature.
You drove us away so we did. We don't have plans to return to Europe. Leave us alone and stop sending here you attention-seeking climate-girl.
P.S. Actually not every nation. The Hindus pretty like us. They don't have complexities with Judaism like the other Abrahamic religions.
The Hindus are immoral parasites similar to you. Move to India then.
Well, they also don't get along with Muslims. I've heard.
And, arguably, with Christians.
Parasites exist to annoy and harm their hosts.
The Hindus don't get along with missionary religions that try to convert them after conquering their subcontinent... Judaism is not missionary, and Jews lived hundreds of years in India with zero persecution.
It's something they don't teach you in Israeli schools...
The point of my post was that the majority of Israel's Jews are effectively European immigrants. DNA tests have proven that. They don't actually have a strong historical argument for staying in Palestine, when they're first or second-generations from Sweden or Frankfurt or Prague.
Not that they need one, as humans are animals and own whichever territory they can claim and defend. But it's disingenuous to make broad historical claims, when they're not mostly native Palestians (of whichever religion).
Check your numbers. Half of Israeli Jews are from middle-eastern countries, who simply don't want to be ruled by Islamists. You're welcome to visit here and see for yourself.
Yeah we voted for the most American-looking guy around here for prime-minister. He lost his magic but it was a good strategy at the time.
Okay, that still leaves the other half. The other half makes for terrible press and weakens your moral argument.
I don't need a perfect moral argument. The population exchange that Israel did with its neighbors is good enough. I need to survive the threat of hundreds of millions of Islamists that surround us, knowing from history that living under the protection of foreign people won't work for us in the long run.
Then leave🤣
You don't, maybe. But the Israeli government is bombarding foreign media with these bizarre historical rantings, and it does nothing but remind us of Palestinian rantings. Same sort of "My Grandaddy always planted potatoes here, and my Holy Book says blah blah blah, and the other side is Literally Hitler. Woe is me."
The whole argumentation is childish. You own what you can claim and defend, but totalitarianism can carry a high political tag, so be sure you want to pay it. The end.
Feels like they're insulting my intelligence.
They don’t care if they insult you or not, you are goy to them, cattle.
Populist Israeli politicians will sometimes say stupid things to get more attention and more votes from their base. They've probably given a 1 hour interview from which few minutes where sliced. And the media loves interviewing the more cuckoo politicians. But the alternative is letting these guys "liberate" Palestine - they don't give interviews they just shoot their opponents.
That is normal, when you elect a totalitarian regime to lead your country. You can only elect them once, as they quickly kill off or banish their political opponents and then suspend elections or turn them into a joke.
I already said, higher up, that the Hamas supporters are all two cups short of a full set. My complaint is that Israelis were starting to sound like them, instead of remaining the adults in the room.
Well, maybe the ceasefire will help. So long as only Hamas is killing off Palestinians, nobody will mind and it's no longer Israel's problem.
Nonsense.
More IDF soldiers dressed as “Hamas,” creating propaganda.
Worse, the Hannibal directive slaughtered hundreds of their own.
You people have lost your grip on the propaganda, no one trusts you anymore.
They wouldn’t be a problem if you were antagonistic/ parasitic fucks
You are parasites, not pawns.
You often post like a Russian bot, or a teenage boy, or something. 🤔
Or as a human that’s using the free internet as it was intended; free and unfiltered speech. Speech that can only be silenced by those with small minds, those who use their mute button to avoid uncomfortable truths.
You're posting misinformation.
Oh, that sounds so creepily dystopian. 😂 Things are logical or illogical, and facts are more or less accurate.
LOL I was referring specifically to his or her lack of knowledge on nuclear blast fallout and seemingly purely subjective opinion on the whole Palestine/Israel situation.
I haven't muted you. Obviously. I only mute for graphic images, cryptospam, and poorly-programmed bottiness.
I meant that your argumentation is too hollow. As if you we're just repeating things other people have said, that you don't understand enough to defend in an argument.
Very emotive, at any rate. I'm a bit old for that, I'm afraid.
I’m shallow when it’s needed (most of the time), but can get as deep as you or anyone would like.
The reality is most people are shallow and call any criticism they don’t like “bots” or “teenage boys,” so they can easily and mentally dismiss information they don’t like.
Hmm. I think you need to up your game. The arguments require me to assume that Jooz R Bad, so anything built upon that will be something I find deeply unconvincing because I think the axiom is faulty.
Try figuring out an argument that your audience would agree with, even if you otherwise disagree with your audience. That's something bots and boys can't do.
If you're just playing to a wider audience, rather than engaging in dialectic, then continue on, as is. Of course. It's a free protocol. 🤙🏻
Why do you believe the axiom is bad, what have you seen counter to the argument?
If you know a single Jewish person who is not evil, then being Jewish does not directly result in someone being evil. That is then objectively false. So, there must be a more complex situation than Jooz Bad.
If 80/100 view you as cattle, does it matter?
If 10/100 view you as cattle but the 10 collectively own politicians, through bribery and blackmail, and use that leverage to control you. All while the 90/100 quietly support those 10; then does it matter?
Generalities exist for a reason.
You switched arguments. You're now making a political claim, whereas before you claimed something intensic.
This is the much more convincing argument. 2% of people are enough to move politics, so it actually doesn't need to be very many or even a majority, as most people are passive, unsure, or even apathetic.
I suspect both sides of this conflict has a particularly virulent and rabid 2%.
Never switched, you’re changing the argument.
And it’s many more than 2% that view you as cattle.
This is not a convincing argument for me. I'm of West African descent. We're arguably the only group of people more universally-disliked than the Jews. 😂 I understand people with a chip on their shoulder. It's exhausting being hated all the time, merely for existing.
I doubt you sit around and think, Wow, wish we had a bunch more of them wonderful negroes round here. ☺
What fallacy is it when you think a group of people are disliked merely for existing?
You really think that’s the case regarding jews?
You really think that’s the case regarding blacks?
You could also make the case that if they’re not “evil,” then they’re not actually jewish.
I think it's reflective of the cult-like nature of their extreme ethno-nationalism. They don't even realize how nuts it all seems to everyone else.
Like Afghanistan or North Korea, but high-tech.
The right-wing parties in Israel are mostly supported by Sephardic Jews whose grandparents fled from Muslim countries.
We're not going to submit to Islamists. You can give them your country if you want.
For the record, Hamas supporters also sound certifiable. 🤷🏻♀️
Everyone involved is mildly insane.
Ashkenazi Jews bonded with Sephardic Jews because both Christian Europeans and Muslim Arabs made life unbearable for them.
Today's Israeli Jews are a blend of these communities (pretty much 50:50). Having a European last name - chosen by some naive great-grandfather who tried to assimilate - doesn’t mean much.
Just leave us alone in our small piece of land. Muslim Arabs have plenty of land and we have no plans to end up like Yazidis or Druze minorities. We're really not asking for much.
I agree that "Muslim Arabs" have plenty of land, but that was the same argument used to justify banishing the Sudetendeutsche out of Egerland: the Germans had plenty of land. Yes, but the Sudetengermans were the Germans from Sudentenland, not the Germans from Rheinland.
It was wrong then, and it's wrong now. Palestinians belong in Palestine, regardless of Jewish or Muslim.
If you can't get along, have two states. That is not asking for too much.
Wrap it up. Figure it out. It's gone on long enough. We all got the point.
Yep. They're both literally just war-based cultures, at this point.
This. All this. Perpetual war driving everyone mad.
You poor soul, you still don't get it.
The Palestinian movement today is not about building a liberal-minded nation-state based on the European model. They wouldn't care about being ruled by a Totalitarian Islamic country like Jordan, and won't say a word about a "blockade" being imposed on the Gaza strip from its border with Egypt.
It's about Dar al Islam vs Dar al Harb. About the giant nation of Ummah. It's about getting another judenfrei piece of land from which they can keep fighting against infidels, with money from oil-rich fanatic bosses. It's a viking-like mindset. They used to be called "Arabs" just like the Jordanians, Syrians and Egyptians, until they realized that calling themselves Palestinians will portray them as "David against Goliath".
And they're coming for Europe too. Don't believe me? Talk with non-muslim minorities in your country that came from Muslim countries. Even moderate Muslims from Iran or Kurdistan will convince you.
I'm well aware of all of that. Part of being Christian is dealing with the hardship of being regularly overrun by more militant groups, as we aren't allowed to argue self-defense until it gets really bad. I'm in Europe. Lots of Palestinians are already here, and they began causing trouble as soon as they arrived. No surprise there, as they know no peace and live for adrenaline and circus.
But not everything is justifiable, even when you are under attack. There is a line and Israel has crossed it.
They can keep right on and tell everyone to get lost, but then they have to deal with being a pariah state. Even Germany is turning away. We are still your friends, and wish you no ill, but we can choose to focus on better friends.
