Nostr Web Client

Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time.

So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information.

Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it.

I can't stress this enough.

ABH3PO 8mo ago 💬 10

What Vitor is pointing out here is extremely important, BUT it is very easy to misinterpret it as: "RELAYS ARE TRACKING YOUR NPUB AGAINST EVERY QUERY YOU MAKE"

which is just false, since they can't. They can however see every write that you do. So can everyone else, but they can also associate your IP to it. So use a VPN.

Now what this post is hinting at is that relays CAN do meta analysis to figure out who is querying these posts(by looking at follow lists and author filters) or which IP is browsing what content, so they can create a profile to some degree. Which is why you SHOULD connect to trusted relays.

Just pointing out the hidden details so people don't get the wrong ideas from it.

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MAHDOOD 8mo ago

And how do you determine which relays are trusted?

ABH3PO 8mo ago

By knowing who's operating them, and evaluating if you trust the operator. If you don't know the operator it's probably not trustworthy.

MAHDOOD 8mo ago

I don’t really know any operator of any relay. The top relay operators are literally attacking each other now 😂

ABH3PO 8mo ago

Well we know nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s runs relay.damus.io and nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr atleast decides the fate of relay.primal.net , we know nostr:npub18kzz4lkdtc5n729kvfunxuz287uvu9f64ywhjz43ra482t2y5sks0mx5sz runs the nostr.wine relays. So you know whom to reach out to if you suspect at least these relays of bad behavior 😛

Mazin 8mo ago

🍷💜

ABH3PO 8mo ago

You can also run your own relay for writes and negentropy sync it, so you only need to connect to it for reads as well 😛, that would be almost perfect privacy.

MAHDOOD 8mo ago

I tried running my own private relay but it required tor and it didn’t work very well with iPhone

ABH3PO 8mo ago

Ahh you don't really need Tor, Tor just enables you to be able to access it from anywhere , it can also be done with a VPS like tailscale. But if you're only using it on your home network, you really need nothing at all, you can just connect to your relays IP.

MAHDOOD 8mo ago

I think I did use tail scale with it for a while but I prefer my VPN. Idk maybe I’ll try to do it again because it’s been a while and it’s important.