Ugh. For 2.5 years I've been running an Umbrel node and it's worked fantastically. It does everything I want it to do, at least until now.
It's becoming overly apparent that I need to rebuild a node from scratch to be able to do the things I want to do.
I did this about a year ago. I built an LND node and then a CLN node.
I'll probably go with LND again because I am most familiar with it and it seems to have the largest amount of support out there.
Sorry to hear. What hardware are you using?
No need to be sorry, I just need more power and don't like being gimped by someone else's constraints 😉
Raspberry Pi 4 for now, but I have a spare laptop that is begging me to be a server. It just needs a storage upgrade and I'm set.
Make sure not to use restoration of channels feature from Umbrell. It will result in force closed channels. Ask me how I know! 🐶🐾😂
Yeah this sucks.
Full copy of the folder works. I didn’t try but would guess that ThunderHub amboss backup should work too! 🐶🐾🫡
But you cannot start the old node after that, right? If you are migrating to a new machine.
Correct! 🐶🐾🫡
OH!
https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/lnd/migrating-lnd
I'll do this. This is stupid easy.
What do you want to do that you cannot do?
there's lots of things. i find myself editing docker containers often to make tweaks. i want to run the latest btcpay server. i want to run the latest lnbits and updated lnbits plugins.
Building a proper server-like machine pays off in the long run. Multiple RAID disks and a UPS. Some server distro and there's a node for the next decade or so.
yeah, this is my biggest issue with my current setup. there's no RAID and eventually this sdd is going to fail. storage devices have a 100% failure rate. 😉 plus, my Pi 4 will be 4 years old in June. who knows how long that thing will last.
Did this a few months ago. 100% worth it imo.
i've been wanting to do it for a year or so. which is why i built the from scratch LND and CLN nodes last summer as a proof of concept. i just never built a machine worthy of the upgrade and i didn't want to have to close all of my channels. but now im seeing that i won't have to close them down if i migrate the data directories and db. i doubt i'll be able to migrate tor and keep the same onion URLs. im reading about that now.
If you can dig out the PK from umbril you can keep the same URL when you install TOR.
I just “graduated” from Umbrel myself but will always keep my old one running for the culture 🤙
In the node I built I’ve got LND and CLN clients pointing to the same bitcoind back end. The LND community is bigger and ThunderHub is definitely the better management UI, but CLN commando is kind of a killer feature. CLN support is also getting way better as the community grows. The new community site ( https://community.corelightning.org/ ) is a great resource.
i didn't play around with commando last summer. hmm. i'll have to check it out this time around.
If you need stable node software, I recommend start9 (https://start9.com). If you have an old laptop, buy more memory (I have 2 TB NVMe) and install EmbassyOS (https://github.com/Start9Labs/embassy-os). And give donations start9.
Overall, I recommend Start9.
I installed Start9 on a machine back in December. It's fantastic. I would recommend it for beginners too.
I just got a raspberry pi and been going back and forth between umbrel and start9. I’m a noob when it comes to this stuff. I thought umbrel would be more plug and play sort of thing but I’m starting to think that start9 would be better for me as I get more hands on learning.
they're both really, really good. i like them both for different reasons. if i were to go with a node platform, i'd go with start9.
I used MyNode, Raspiblitz, Umbrel on Raspberry Pi 4, Raspberry Pi is ok for Bitcoin max LN but if you install something more then problems may start. I bought this computer:
Mini PC HP 800 G2 Tiny i7 16GB
Even the fan does not work loudly when I turn on several applications.
Here you have a comparison of processor power compared to the Raspberry Pi:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4078vs2614/ARM-Cortex-A72-4-Core-1800-MHz-vs-Intel-i7-6700T
There's nothing to even compare here. If you want to seriously have a node, buy some decent equipment. As for learning, the Raspberry Pi will do.
I have this equipment with embassyos installed, and I invested in a UPS. This configuration allowed me to run the node from December without any surprises.
