Today I'm honestly wondering if this is a place I want to be anymore.
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"Dinosaurs are 500 million years old"
Or, "the universe is 13 billion years old" is just as hilarious.
You believe your all powerful and all knowing imaginary friend snapped his fingers and wizarded the universe into existence 10k years ago.
See, you sound dumb as shit when I take your beliefs out of context and word them my way too.
Do you believe dinosaurs or the universe are that old? I was using generic "science speak" to arrive at those arbitrary numbers.
If you want to believe in a younger earth, or the dating methods are flawed, fine, but you can't get these processes down to 4k years ago, which is what the retarded fundamentalists say.
Personally, I do think something profound happened in our past. But saying the earth is 4k years old, or 6k since I don't actually remember the claim, is a worse cover up of the truth than whatever the establishment is doing.
i believe it was 12000 years ago when the great flood happened, and the bones we found are ones that were instantly swept under shitloads of mud, gigatons of mud, and all the air was driven out by gravity pressure as it settled over their bodies, that's how it came to be that even some of them parts of the soft tissue remain, and how they found DNA in the bone marrow, this is impossible to have survived millions of years
i'm pretty sure that the timeline of the old testament is based on a different scale of time than it literally says, and in any case, it even says they called a year 360 days, and that when this was lost it was a bad sign. i have seen the charts that show the progression from Adam to Noah to Abraham and it is out of kilter with the clear 6000 year cycle, for a start, the flood was caused by a magnetic pole shift and crust slip, it even describes in several of the accounts of Noah, that it wasn't just a normal flood, the ocean just kept on coming up and up over onto the land like a king tide that doesn't wanna quit, and then lifted the ark up into it, and it says it was 40 days drifting before it came back to ground, and i believe that Noah was actually living in what is now bulgaria, and the black sea was overflowed with water coming up from the mediterranean and the first place they landed was actually on a Greek island called Thera, which had a massive volcano, and the catastrophic eruption of this volcano some time later was what was actually the cause of the 7 plagues in egypt as they were warned to relocate and went south across the sea and ended up in egypt
IMO geological evidence is the best time marker, and nothing is more reliable than the aging of volcanic stone, and the timing of these events is much more reliable, and what gets trapped inside the volcanic material signifies a lot about the space weather conditions more reliably than the sediment of the flood caused by the pole shifts, and i am pretty sure that the catastrophe described around Babel and Sodom and Gomorrah were actually the minor event of 6000 years and the impactors that hit sodom and gomorrah were the results of the material solidifying from that super-flare and happened in the following 600 years or so
there was also an event 6000 years ago, the most strong evidence of it was found in china, near the Tianchi volcano (the magnetic realignment and volcanic activity), this is reliable dating, the mud is not, dating stone by its weathering is a far more reliable method than carbon 14
further, carbon 14 dating is shit also because it assumes a constant uniform amount of solar activity, but during the 6000 year events, the sun flares a lot more for a short period so this means that a lot more carbon 14 is thrown at us during that time, so it cannot be counted as a reliable method of dating
as for the dinosaurs being a product of this hybrid breeding GMO stuff you are speculating about, i don't think so, the period leading up to the pole shift of 12000 years ago was very warm, from about 10000 years ago after about 1200 years of cold, the "younger dryas", and these megafauna were simply able to exist because there was so much heat and the plants grew bigger and so were able to support much larger animals, and the "giants", or "nephilim" were human/angel hybrids who were obviously gonna need a lot of food and so this led to them destroying most of that stuff, and yeah, most of the dinosaurs, at least the ones walking on two legs, were actually ground fowl like the Cassowary and Ostrich, but imagine there was 1000x more plants and thus 1000x more smaller animals for them to eat
probably the ravenous appetites of these 10-20 foot tall humans were also part of the tragedy of it since they would have had to massively hunt out all those big animals and probably mostly extincted many of these animals
btw, the stuff about the black sea rising up over bulgaria, the eastern region of the country is full of sandstone, there's even one place i saw while travelling on the train to Varna that they had cut the top off a whole giant mountain made out of it, and one of the biggest lime factories in europe is in a town called Devnya and the size of the cable cars and the train station where it was loaded on was epic, i mean, epic... the factory was pretty damn huge too, several really big smoke stacks for the giant furnaces and shit... probably a big part of what glued most of eastern europe's commieblocks came from this place (i'd guess russia has some good ones of its own)... but massive sandstone deposits are clearly from the sea, sand and fragments of shells and diatoms and other bony microorganisms, coral, etc, animals that absorb the calcium from the water and use it to build their skeletons and other things (all shells, etc)
because it was bulgaria, that indicates that the initial shift was towards bulgaria, the sea rose up over the regions around the caspian and then as it al piled up over that peninsula and across the other side it then sloshed back
so, based on that i'd say that when this event happened the direction of the shift was east-northeast at that time, as the sloshback is more violent and rather than just flowing up, the whole seabed of the black sea would have been washed up onto the land
You know that land moves right? It is slow but it moves. 2 large tectonic plates crashing into each other causes the ground to pile up along the seam between the plates.
Your flood theory explains 1 weird mountain sort of. My, and every geologist's, tectonic plate theory explains every mountain, every valley, every volcano, and earthquakes. Which is a better fit for explaining the world around you?
Holy Bullshit Batman😂
Literal dismissive use of the word science as a slur. I'm done talking to you. I'm not on nostr to have other peoples irrational superstitions drag me down all day.
There's a lot of that here. What that one seems not to understand is that, it doesn't matter if you change the name from dinosaurs to demons. We still have skeletons in rocks... Are we better off, calling them demons?
Yes. That sounds like a lot of fun. 😄
We are better off dealing with the reality right in front of our faces than making up stories about how the boogeyman put that there to trick us.
Truth is there and you do have to live with it, you already do live with it. The only confusion is in your head. Having an innacurate model of the world will hurt you not the world.
I think its mostly avoidance. Life is hard... Belief is a ready crutch, allowing people to basically say its someone else's fault.
That said, I do have some beliefs that are potentially in that category... Like, Trump is being controlled by aliens, and so are most prominent figures, and these aliens hijacked Christianity and turned it into a mockery of Christ. I think that.
A scary amount of Christians have integrated trump as some sort of prophet or lesser deity. I guess they forgot about how their god feels about false idols.
I have crackpot beliefs same as anyone. A key difference is I'll tell you it is my personal crackpot BS and let you decide for yourself how tight my straitjacket should be. I'm not presenting those things as facts about the world.
Having an inaccurate model of the world will hurt the person and the world
I'm convinced there is an effect that idiots trust idiots more than intelligent people. We all see it. Philosophers have talked about the isolation of intelligence for centuries now. I don't recall any formalized study of it as definitive as Dunning Kruger.
I wish I had the confidence of the people on the left side of that chart.
I've been actively working on that. Trying to transition how I calculate my confidence in a disagreement so to speak. It isn't how confident am I that I 100% know this and am right. I base my confidence on how certain I am that I know better than the person I'm talking to.
As a bonus this means I get more practice at changing my mind and apologizing for being wrong.
I base my confidence on how much I know about what I don't know. It makes me speak so carefully about some things that people have literally called me stupid behind my back. They believe that thinking before and while you speak means you're dumb. And the whole time I'm just trying really hard to avoid giving them bad information.
I'll try your method for a while.
The way to stand up to these people isn't by leaving
I suggest following up on the bullshit you see and trying to develop a network of people who think scientifically