Fuck marriage is harder sometimes than guessing a valid block..

Bitcoin knowledge makes it increasingly harder to articulate short term pain for long term gains to your significant other whom hasn’t an idea of what Bitcoin is..

Any ideas from people married years and fighting the good fight in fiat mining and stacking humbly…

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There has to be balance. As much as I would like to stack more aggressively, my wife needs the financial security of having a certain amount of fiat in our account for the time being. It can be a struggle, but over time there will be little moments to share updates about Bitcoin and the community. She will start to see the value eventually. 🙏🏻🫂

It's always smart to have different funds for different things, I know having more exposure to Bitcoin increases yields but having High-Yield Emergency Savings funds helps protect you from having to liquidate, or borrow against your BTC.

I recommend people to fix their fiat situation first, and to be financially stable/responsible in fiat before moving onto Bitcoin.

If people are in financially risky positions they won't have the clear mind to properly utilize Bitcoin.

Where I live there is no such thing as high yielding emergency funds.. it’s goes backwards so quickly - just this month vs the usd we lost 7%…

It’s an incredible balancing act.. and I do have a “stable” fiat mining job which is potentially a very good job but living like a “pleb” for a little bit longer for longer term freedom is what I need her to see for herself so I need some way of introducing it to her in a way that makes her fall down the rabbit hole at her own pace..

Yeah, based off the context it appears you're in Africa potentially, the global south absolutely needs Bitcoin, or other crypto technologies like to help alleviate the broken, or lack of safe, trustworthy, and good financial institutions.

Africa is starting from Zero basically, so in your case, going 80% to 100% Bitcoin might be more beneficial, that being said probably have a little money on the side to provide your shelter, and food, plus any other expenses you need, medicine, transportation, etc.

I generally give advice based off of Western/American systems since technically speaking Bitcoin only benefits us as a slightly faster payment system that's not inflationary but our financial institutions are strong, and reliable, and technically speaking The U.S. Dollar is the most sound money there is but personally I see Bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies as a tool for personal freedom from the broken aspects of global banking.

Indeed I am in Africa.. country is still stable relative to other African countries so I’m grateful for that but ultimately the currency is going to become like Zimbabwe did and it’ll happen overnight..

So I have a place to stay and everything else covered monthly because of a fiat mining job which there is great potential to earn good fiat but I made a decision to not be my own boss because I wanted to prove to myself I can pivot in a career so monthly earnings have dramatically changed yet my stack obviously is still there.. and I’m by no means a whale..

USD is still the currency normies including myself wanted before BTC because 30 years ago we were trading at 3/1 now we are 5-6x that…

Anyways - I still love her and will figure out a way. Thanks for the advice 🙏

My mother is like this as well, she doesn't understand the technology, or benefit but I hope that it will improve for you.

I mean let me say - we’ve lived a really great life but NGU technology on someone’s mind who doesn’t understand the guts of it - that’s the challenge.. anyways! I love Nostr and the ability to communicate and actually get responses from real people - well assuming all the comments aren’t AI generated 🤣🤣

Just do what you can, keep it balanced, even though fiat sucks 90% of the world still operates off of it so have a little something on hand to protect you from bad things, look for opportunities to grow, education, new businesses, etc. so your fiat income can grow, and keep stacking, eventually your savings in both fiat, and Bitcoin/Crypto will be stable, and then you can hopefully start your own Bitcoin Business to help free the world, and improve your situation.

If you can download Cake Wallet, and I'll send you some Bitcoin 👍 on there.

Hey man - thank you! I’ve downloaded Cake - will DM you 🙏

This makes sense. Thank you. I have that but because the FIAT number(relative to ones experience ) is large in BTC terms I feels like a free for all.. 🙏

Low time preference is about patience.

Take your time. Let her figure it out for herself, but make sure she gets some helpful hints from you from time to time.

Don't act like you know it all. Learn together.

Take a look at the average historical value of a house in your suburb and compare that investment to what would have happened in bitcoin.

Take a look at interest rates for savings accounts at your favourite bank, do some calculations moving forward and backwards.

Start her off with a small stash, and do it all together so she can understand it slowly. My wife can listen for about five minutes a day, and after that it is too much.

Get her on nostr and follow a few of the inspiring ladies we have in our company. She'll end up seeing bitcoin posts occasionally.

Gradual exposure. It will eventually sink in, and one day it will click.

Low time preference is absolutely agreed about patience. Only if you learn and wanna learn about it..

It’s difficult as she doesn’t wanna learn - she wants to live in a bubble and be a mother which is fine but I want to open her eyes.. balancing act..

She has made it clear that she will not wanna know figures and understand them - categorically 🤦🏻‍♂️

Speak to her wants and needs.

There's a conversation or two there about how bitcoin is the best way to to be autonomous and sovereign, and therefore exist in any bubble she wants.

She has to be able to justify it to her friends. That's more than reasonable.

Here is another curve ball… she doesn’t have any buddies.. very much a home body and someone whom does what she does as a career and then comes home..

The people whom we associate with maybe think our way is all weird..

Welcome to the club.

Justifying is not convincing or making excuses. It's explaining in a way you believe in.

Yeah, that’s what is needed in this case and most cases in BTC!

She has a stash bigger than most people on planet earth because she trusted me.. but to her she thinks she can never use it - I’m telling her wait..

It’s tough being the solo stacker in a marriage! Keep grinding and let the stack speak for itself in the future…

I agree with nostr:npub1nthvv0sglny3nzr89kemd8rz7rxa9jtcq6mcc78lk87c3vmcksxsvl24gw . Need to balance the fiat security of the family and the future security with a 🌽 stack.

Attacking the mortgage with 🌽 is a sure fire way to build up street cred! It’s bloody tough when you are not at that stage yet! Keep grinding …

Yeah - even harder when you a solo stacker in a family of 9 people who all live together.. 🤣🤣

Fiat security is fine for now and opportunities are good for the future.. it’s just the balancing act..

Buying a house where I’m from Median price is $120k USD. 15% of purchase price is fees to the government plus interest rates which range anywhere between 11% and 18% when it’s going very badly yet renting is a fraction of the cost of owning. Plus there hasn’t been true capital appreciation in real estate since 1994…

Thanks for the advice 🙏

1 stacker out of 9 is tough. I feel your frustration. Governments taking 15% of the pie is a disgrace! Dodgy bastards… In time your Bitcoin thesis will be validated. Bitcoin > Realestate…

Just do your part quietly. Man provides even if he is not praised for it.

Finally got to use that line from a movie.

But hey, just keep stacking. With good questions find out what she needs to feel ok (like $X in cash at hand, one vacation per year), provide this and stack the rest.

Yeah.. agreed! Maybe it’s my way of articulating things I have in my brain - I need to get much better at that then she does need to know knowledge about what is actually happening.. I have provided for her well beyond anyone my age in the position the majority is in… BTC just fucks all models anyone has ever had

I feel you. Every decicion is weighted like 10 times and most of the time I end up with “I wish I could just buy more Bitcoin”

Like if one was living in a first world country like the USA - then you might think you have more time.. where I live.. the clock stopped in 2008.. we’ve been destroyed by corruption on a scale that people don’t understand… relative to GDP size and I can’t seem to see any other way other than BTC from a third world point of view if you are able to save in the money.. 99% aren’t even making ends meet 👌

Where are you from, brother?

Africa - I don’t wanna say where in Africa but living in the third world. 🙏

I wish you well. And I am confident that you’ll end up fine. Bitcoin is the way and you came early enough. I wish you the best.

Are you from a first world country? I appreciate the kind words and thanks for the follow 🤙🏻

More like second world… lol. We’re definitely better than Africa, but I come from a post-communist country, which means we are at least 30-40 years behind economically speaking.

But it’s still very safe country and beautiful piece of land.

Haha so better circumstances in some aspects…

If you could click your fingers - would you move or stay where you live?

Me personally - I’ve travelled and I wouldn’t live anywhere else.. and that’s basically all because of BTCs potential..

Maybe delusional but only time will tell…

I feel the same. I don’t want to move anywhere else unless I have to.

EU is real shit, beraucratic hell with massive missalocations of capital, over regulatet behemoth, but still on of the best place to live rn. I just think you Africans have a long runway before you but can be much better in next 30 to 50 years than Europe.

Yeah - maybe it’s comfort and knowing how to deal in the country you live in..

Africa could become phenomenal if and it’s a BIG IF - we get someone/maybe a few leaders who get BTC..

We have the same issue here.. I tried to OP the reserve bank here and got told to fuck off at 8000usd 🤣🤣

I can go to my death bed knowing I’ve tried

Marriage is hard.

Humility, Love & Communication help a lot.

Blessings to you and yours 🙏

As my post said.. hard like solving a BTC block with a solo miner 🤣🤣

But what you’ve said is 100% spot on.. 🙏

I “woke up” to many of the realities of the world we live in shortly after 9/11 and proceeded to drive my (then new) bride crazy with constant talk of the conspiracies that are underway on the part of “the 1%” to enslave us all. Including the whole central banking rabbit hole. I had to cut that shit out.

I have since learned, and I have to still regularly bite my tongue, that it is my job as a man to protect and to provide a nurturing and secure environment for the family without freaking everybody in the house out with talk of impending doom and how we must fight against it. I have those conversations with my best guy friend, not my wife.

While it is a bonus to have a spouse who is inquisitive enough to fully jump down the rabbit hole with you, it is not 100% necessary for you to be doing so at the same rate. Small, single sentence truth bombs over time have a cumulative effect.

Part of the reason why monetary debasement is so insidious and destructive to society is that it is just sufficiently complicated to stand as a barrier to understanding for those who are not naturally inquisitive.

Our wives, if they are the ones doing the grocery shopping while we are at work and have to do so on a fixed dollar amount, are in a perfect position to feel the effects of decreased purchasing power. While I think it is important to subtly and slowly explain the reasons why we aren’t getting as much bang for our buck these days to those in our household, and help them understand the reasons why it behooves us to become more food- , energy- , and security self sufficient over time, I don’t think we need to burden them with the details and highlight all of the threats.

Here’s three things that I have found that have been helpful to slowly get us where we need to be without rocking the boat, as I personally try to gain the control, time, resources and physical space to pursue them:

1) Making food, water, energy and physical security part of my hobbies. Gardening, preserving, cutting firewood, building backup systems, raising small animals, hunting, fishing, shooting, and physical training. These are fun ways to lead through results rather than by words. Many of them also involve activities that you can get your wife and kids interested in, to create some quality time together and pass on what you are learning. Let your gains in these areas, and the sense of pride and security they provide, do the talking for you.

2) Do regular, small, imperceptible DCA acquisitions of hard assets like Bitcoin, metals, and a bit of fiat, and make sure that they are secured, distributed, accessible in the event of your death, and (in the case of UTXO’s), consolidated. Think of how many unnecessary purchases under $20 you can eliminate every two weeks that would add up to a modest DCA that has little effect on the household operating budget.

3) Bring the tools, guns, ammo, prepping gear and electronic hardware in the side door lol 😂

This is a quality response - so much great information..

Assume by your response you are older than I am - which is awesome to get responses I’m looking for..

Man providing is vital - I understand that and learnt from my dad.

Thing is I don’t have anyone to talk to about BTC and what’s really on my mind because everyone around me is still chasing the hamster..

1. Where I live (currently and location) - this isn’t possible.. I also don’t have kids yet - story for another note.

2. DCA is done every single day on auto buy since I started earning a regular income - (never ever had a regular income)

3. Guns in my country - more chance of getting the FED to stop printing money and government to act responsibly than an average person getting a weapon.. yet if you wanna gamble (criminals) - they buy weapons from our police force - so general people are celebrated handing in their guns to only be sold to the thugs..

So yeah - it’s a rough world out here but I have a loving wife and I got the opportunity to wake up again today - can’t ask for much more!

Just take baby steps. Try to get out of the city eventually or even to a small lot in town that has some sun exposure and some space for some raised beds. In the meantime see if there’s any borrowable growing space and a reliable alternate water source you could use in your immediate area to do a couple raised beds or a small community coop plot. Even start on your balcony if you must.

Firearms aren’t a must, and if you haven’t been raised in a culture where you’ve had lots of exposure to them, you need safety training. Maybe someday you will be be able to move to a jurisdiction that permits their use as tools for gathering food, if not for self defence. In the meantime, improvise, take a safety course on firearms and explore legal options. Learn about 3D printed options. But weigh risks with the laws in your country. You can’t be much of a provider behind bars. In the meantime make yourself the weapon. Train Jiu Jitsu and get your kids and wife into it. It’s literally the best thing you can expose a young person too for lifetime confidence, fitness, and practical self-defense.

If you have kids, a good way to introduce libertarian ideas into the home in the background that everybody in earshot will absorb is to watch the Tuttle Twins series on Angel Studios. It’s a cartoon series aimed at kids that talks about concepts of freedom, liberty, and sound money.

Baby steps.

So geographically where I live and to do what you have mentioned is actually more unsafe than safe..

Here the hostility against people who live on farms and bigger pieces of land is worse than in the “city”

So weighing the safety vs freedom option up.

So I have I’d say a 7/10 ability with guns as I have been exposed but on private hunting farms and friends who have them (cops and medics)

Ideally if it gets like Venezuela or Zimbabwe then moving is unfortunately the only option..

I’ll try my best to home school because I was home schooled not for any other reason than I hated teachers and I wanted to play a professional sport..

Stay strong. I forget sometimes that there are jurisdictions in the world where daily personal physical safety (and not just safety from authoritarianism) is a reality. Best to make a long term plan to get out and get that dealt with if you can. It might be a tall order, but you deserve to be able to walk down the street and roam the countryside without fear of violence. God bless.

So where I live which is pretty obvious to figure out is bad but not bad which is weird..

Like I work and travel around a fair bit and don’t every feel threatened because I have been brought up here knowing what to look for..

Like an example is when driving through a town - don’t have any electronics anywhere near you. They smash and grab stuff (I’ll post a video I got from a drone)

Ironically I had a kidnapping experience in a gated community where people were paid off to look the other way - and what saved my life was my buddy who walked out 2 mins after the whole thing happened had his weapon and the people doing what they were left theirs in there car..

So yeah- knife’s edge but the USA is also bad either way guns with fuck heads just going mad.. so I am definitely pro gun but not worth it here

wow!