Seems polls are not yet well supported on communities so I manually ask: What is your preferred telegram FOSS client and why?

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SimpleX Chat

Sucks for chats with more than 50 members. Low network effect still.

Then Matrix, or even IRC. Anything is better than Telegram and it doesn't matter what kind of client there is if the server is closed and run by some fugitive nouveau riche from Arab emirates.

Matrix where 99.9% of users use matrix .org? Lol, I run a homeserver for 2 years until I realized it was pointless.

I'm not a big fan of telegram either but the UX is unmatched and you can use it with a burner phone and a FOSS client. Sovereign individuals are pragmatic and use the tools that work at any given time without bitching about it.

If TG servers are shutdown that's fine, I won't lose shit. Same if my SimpleX relays go down.

Also most decent FOSS projects only have a telegram support room.

The sooner they go to Nostr, the better for them 😏

Agree, #Telegram was a good promise back then, got the best UI and most advanced features although than appeared to have no encryption.. honestly if I am going back from #SimpleX which now sucks for groups and also 50% sucks for p2p as instant delivery works every other day and my contacts are ready to trash it on my head, I am going back to Whatsapp. Yes its spyes like mad but is easy to deploy and dont have to convince anyone on using it

You will not get a lot of positive answers from the nostr folks about telegram. People here are biased more towards secure and privacy respecting software.

Signal is well a developed product. Can easily be used by non technical ppl.

SimpleX is interesting, but in its early days. It will take time to reach good quality.

Telegram, WhatsApp, even matrix, or xmpp/jabber are not exciting and maybe harmful.

Most bitcoin communities and projects have very active telegram groups.

I also prefer more private and decentralized solutions but at the same time I'm pragmatic and use what works in the most privacy preserving way (FOSS client, orbot proxied, sms4sats burner phone).

Most simpleX / matrix groups are dead in comparison. Ignoring a discussion about FOSS tg clients does not seem that productive to me.

Early nostr development even started as a Telegram group that is still very active.

I've read over at #RoboSats that #Telegram is used to communicate between buyers & sellers? Can FOSS version of #Telegram be used there?

Not quite. Comms between trade peers only occur e2e encryted over tor on robosats itself.

What robosats allows is notifications using a telegram bot so that you don't need to stay by the tor browser waiting for something to change.

E.g. you get the robosats telegram bot warns you if your trade peer DM'd you but does not tell you the content.

What's up with Matrix? Decentralized prodotol, bridges, fully FOSS, what's wrong?

It's a super subjective opinion, feel free to ignore... I just find Matrix, or generally federated messaging, boring. Basically better email. Boring is not necessarily bad, it's even good if works well and is used by many. I've read that matrix has good design. But I don't see it as anything special. In the 2000 xmpp was doing similar things. I understand that matrix is more modern, but I'm just not excited about it... I would be happy if it were new WhatsApp, but it's not happening....

Fair enough, I can understand that. What gets me excited is thw new client based on the new sliding sync protocol (thousand times faster loads) and their work on p2p. Being connected to no seerver at all when you don't need one is amazing.

Eu odeio tanto telegram que fui banido por falar mal dele 😁😁🥱

E olha que eu era famoso e tinha aproximadamente uns 50 mil fãs

Eu apenas desenvolvia stickers de memes 😁

Todos usavam e eu simplesmente exclui 🥱😁