nostr is a few years old now and social microblogging clients don't have polls. devs do something.

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Amethyst does

you have to pay to vote, awful idea imo

I think that's needed because it's incredibly easy for someone to make multiple accounts and fuck with the results

It's not an election, just a way to gauge people's opinions. the spec I'm using allows to specify authoritative relays which can filter spam, and doing client side filtering of results should help separate the signal from the noise.

but then the result depends on the client and we've all descended into the quantum realm.

The results are the same, filtering depends on how YOU want to filter them.

Yeah, it's the relays that determine the quality of the results, not the clients.

Relays or clients, user-set client filters or hard-coded client filters, it all leads to a quantum soup one way or the other. Nostr just doesn't do consistency. And the whole point of a poll is that everyone is 100% sure everyone else is seeing the exact same numbers. Otherwise it's not a poll, it's an interpretation generator.

Could work for NIP-29 groups though.

I legit don't care what other people see.

I want to know what my frens think and have some fun.

Y'all are overthinking this.

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Overthinking for the win. So many Nostr issues stem from underthinking and just smashing something out. Case in point: NIP-04. Couple days of whoo-wee followed by couple years of pain.

Polls have been a topic for years.

Subjectivity is ok in this case imo (OP's follows, my follows). And of course they work great in closed groups.

Closed groups for the win. Im slowly accepting that NIP29 is the best thing in Nostr, despite all the speed bumps

the fact that it's the most hated NIP still baffles me, one of the best things we have for sure.

I think it gets some hate because it upends the physics of Nostr. It's like Galileo coming in and going "No actually it's the other way around y'all.".

For most content types, BOTH publishing in the unglobal feed or in 1 moderated community suck.

There's a middle way tho.

The relay group is the only way to compete with larger groups like those on Telegram.

:90percent:

How large do you think NIP-29 groups can get while maintaining a half-decent UX?

With a high-performance server, I think it could support a group with up to ten thousand members.

Targeting to multiple #commuikeys fixes the quantum soup, while not trying your publications to one community forever.

I need people to poke holes on this approach.

The lack of a global default state to work with is a real one and keeps coming up for nearly every content type.

I also need a mobile app that fixes my typos before sending :joke:

The result should depend on where the author is targeting the :poll: Poll.

I.e. the author selects what Communities (with moderated relay + media server) he uses as the publication houses for his event.

This gives you a Global state you can work with, without having the author hand over control to one server.

Tbh I would even argue that the spec is also election ready if implemented correctly πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

Oh no my poll about who prefers tits or ass is ruined!! Lol

Oh no! Anonymous people and bots on the Internet could pretend to be other anonymous people and bots on the Internet! 😩

πŸ˜‚ haha

why can't I choose both πŸ—Ώ

THIS POLL MUST BE MULTISELECT!

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and we need the male equivalent, curious what the ladies think about our body parts xd

6 feet

6 inches

6 pack

Make it mutliselect. πŸ˜‚

Hahahaha devilish 😈

It must be accurate!

I would filter it by my follows and maybe their follows and would want to know who voted what. No need for sats.

the problem is that there are only two protocols let's make a third one or let's do the fourth one πŸ€™

worse is better

Saw this, while working on pollerama, to make it easier to use. I think if these "popular clients" won't do it, we should just make our clients better and make these dinosaurs irrelevant.

Something cool that Pollerama could do, as a cross-relay service, is display the polls by demographic (relay community) and also in aggregrate (deduplicating the results by npub).

Then you can have higher-signal results for the "full" data set, than if someone just looked at the results in relay.nostr.band, or something, while everyone could still drill down by demographic. You could also display the relay.nostr.band results, of course, since it's a sort of mega-community.

It's already de-duped by npub, the poll creator is supposed to specify the relays though so there is consistency, but yeah relay filtering doesn't hurt, I'll look into it.

Gifs too ffs πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

The Tenor API is free to use, fast af and easy to integrate. If privacy is a concern requests could be proxied.

But it's centralized nooooooo πŸ˜…

I've been having a great time with jumble, might just make it my main client.

I'm mostly on Jumble and our own stuff, now, with occasional side-offs on Nostrudel and Chachi.

I also sometimes spy on Primal, to find out how the other half lives.

Oh, and I use Pollerama. 😁

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Is it already live on https://jumble.social ?

'Tis

Somewhat related - is amethyst still being maintained?

Yes

Last update was in January

Yes, Vitor Pamplona stated a while ago that he's working on an update and that Amethyst hasn't been updated in a long time.

If you're checking the source code, make sure to look at all branches. Master branch is"stale" minus translations, because they are hard at work on outbox support.

ahhh Yakihonne has

polls that extort money out of people are so stupid.

Paying to vote sounds totalitarian to me πŸ˜‚

Yet there are npubs who would die on this hill, they would knowingly make nostr worse just so they can make a few sats on their polls.

you can post polls with https://jumble.thecaptain.dev

Nice, looks like it was merged upstream so Jumble has polls now!

I think it's on master but not deployed yet on the official app

It is, I did a poll earlier today

never mind, I just had to refresh a few times