clearly he thinks damus is a threat like this because he removed me from the nips repo. Ironic since he’s working on a competing nostr client. The whole nips repo is becoming not that useful, lots of bad specs and people trying to bully others to adopt these bad ideas. People have already changed my zap spec which is now incompatible with the damus implementation without an ACK from me. It’s honestly becoming a joke. How do protocols die? Look at how the nips repo is run and you’ll get an idea. Maybe there is a better way but I’m not sure yet.
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I was wondering why you were a lot less active there lately
NIPs are move fast and break things. Pros and cons with that approach, obviously. Nostr has moved a lot faster than competitors, but that comes at the cost of some technical debt. So long as nostr doesnt end up drowing in technical debt I think there's enough for most people to build things. But we should accept that the approach will lead to some conflicts.
Been away for a while learning nixos full time…
Before nostrica, people were optimistic and the environment was mostly peaceful despite some minor discussions about how to make the protocol evolve… seemed healthy at the time.
Fast forward today, should I understand that we’re heading into some kind of fork?
No fork, people just need to chill
nah
it's all good. good time invested learning nixos; did you build something with it?
migrating all my infra to it... which takes a bit of time off my nostr dev contributions… but looking forward to make nostr contributions very easy to use in nix through flakes.
Everyone seems to absolutely love nixos, I should probably take some time and look into it
Lol 😂 so the topic of this thread is unexpected switch!
Thank you!
I use it on all my linux machines and servers. There is no second best.
yeah, nixos is awesome
learning it is a long journey but it's totally worth it. this knowledge is almost as valuable as bitcoin and nostr themselves
Need a translator- who’s “he” did Will refer to? Fiatjaf or Albi dev?
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fiatjaf
Oh no, we can’t afford a civil war imho🥺
Let's have an MMA fight then
I dunno. Id pay for nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 vs nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s 😂 😂 throw nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z in there and make it a free for all!! 😂 😂
it wont happen. I really wanted it happen when i was in miami but it end up with 👇
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Did you buy an android? :)
Thank you for bring me to the time line🙈
And so it begins... #FreeNips and keep open source great
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I removed everybody in February or March because I thought it was going too free-for-all, then slowly gave access to some other people. In any case I don't think the NIPs repo is the best solution either.
I was against the changes to the zap spec but I'm not sure I said anything about this time since I don't have any stakes on that game. As you know, I think the zaps spec wasn't optimal from the start and I voiced that when I first learned about it, in your PR, but it was already too late since you already had it as a settled standard in your head and wasn't willing to change it a single bit.
Moreover it was already a standard since Amethyst and Snort had already implemented your spec. At the time you didn't mind that, but now when Amethyst and Snort and other clients decide to move the same spec to other directions you're realizing how that can be a problem sometimes.
I didn’t force anything though with the zaps spec. I iterated on it with nostr:npub1v0lxxxxutpvrelsksy8cdhgfux9l6a42hsj2qzquu2zk7vc9qnkszrqj49 who made the spec a lot better. This narrative that I forced it through was ridiculous, and the feedback I got back from you was just not good, sorry.
Noone has suggested substantial changes to make it “better”, including you. If its so bad than suggest an improvement.
Honestly this constant hostility from you is offputting and doesn’t really make me interested in working with the zbd-and-fiatjaf-centralized and cliquey nip repo at this point. nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj is starting a spec for publishing NIPs on nostr so I will be putting more energy into that.
You didn't even answer to my criticisms or to any of the other criticisms that were posted on your zaps PR, please.
Because it was pointless bikeshedding about the style of the lnurl endpoint from someone who wasn’t building a client, this is after i was working on the spec with different client authors for weeks. The existence of zaps at that point in time (height of initial nostr onboarding) was more important than rearranging furniture and delaying it for little gain.
This just confirms what I said.
Sorry I didn’t realize you were the final decision maker on all nips
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What? I merged the damn NIP even though I didn't agree with it. What else did you think I should have done?
Gentleman may I suggest moving this discussion to DMs. Fiatjaf shipped half the coins to damus let's assume everyone has good intentions and all on the same team here and acting in good faith, even if there might be some valid criticisms of how things are going?
Nobody likes to see parents fighting 🫂💜
hush. i wanna see nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s call nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 a poopy head
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Would be nice to read some actual criticism of the way the NIPs repo is being handled instead of these personal attacks. I never attacked you personally.
I also don't understand why you hate ZBD so much or what does that have to do with anything, since it's a custodial client for ZBD users, it's not competing with Damus at all.
I see you are angry and you hate me at this moment but I am not seeing exactly what I did to deserve that. I have seen you get angry with others and I have been angry myself many times, so I understand that. I just think would be nice if you -- or anyone who is reading this who that have issues with me -- could tell me with a little more clarity what are the issues.
My DMs on Telegram are always open to anyone if you prefer that.
Outsider looking in but maybe you yanking Will’s privileges to publish nips has something to do with it? Seems like a dick move.
Are there any resources available I can reqd up on for that NIPs-on-nostr thing?
Added you back to the NIPs repo.
Please keep bringing your valuable comments and proposals while we're still living in centralized repository world. And that includes criticism of all the NIP proposals that are happening (most of which I am against myself but people are doing anyway) and of the way the NIPs repo is run.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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