What people from local Bitcoin meetups say about #Nostr:
"I think nostr is great for things like bitdevs where it’s a small, in-the-know group who really just needs to know the date of an event they are already aware of conceptually
For finding new people and creating awareness, it’s no good.
Meetup sux too but for now it’s the tallest midget in the room."
Tell me You don't Agree
Finding new people on nostr is easy though
"telling why I don't agree" is a losing stance.
So instead of "telling why", here's an invitation to unpack and engage.
- An essay about Anarchy as method for knowledge
- written on nostr, composed out of atomic units that can be forked and remixed into other collections
- highlighted and commented on, which bleeds into any short note feed that supports highlighting, kind 1111 comments
Tell me what other system facilitates `ideas` as living systems to this level.
sadly their IQ is likely too low to absorb all this 😂
Yeah, but you can 😄 the question now is more about what can you take away from it?
We shouldn't have to argue against other's preconceptions as it's a losing game.
I like showing. If it resonates, it /really/ resonates. I don't care or have time to convince anyone else any other way 😁🤷
I just told the entire group I abandoned them because they are still in the centralized matrix :D LOL Their loss, not mine. I know it sounds harsh but my time is precious and I'd rather spend it with people who are moving forward in the right direction.
Nostr is the place to be.
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Nostr is the place to be... And we're happy that you're here with us.
You can just use nostr
What tf kinda bitcoiner pays for meetup?
I feel this way too. I'm more of a meet at a bar or restaurant addhoc guy.
On the flip side
Running an active meetup takes time energy and SATs. It can turn fiat real quick.
If they want to have workshops or other events someone has to foot that bill. Who should?
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Well, we’ve got plenty of tools now that are open source and built on Nostr… nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424 built Plektos. There’s also nostr:npub138lktp328xjqvs45zysswzjxu4gxj58uypmlt486nxhek3dry8vsf3zeru and nostr:npub1dtgg8yk3h23ldlm6jsy79tz723p4sun9mz62tqwxqe7c363szkzqm8up6m with Satlantis. Not sure where nostr:npub1yaul8k059377u9lsu67de7y637w4jtgeuwcmh5n7788l6xnlnrgs3tvjmf is at with Comingle? nostr:npub1patrlck0muvqevgytp4etpen0xsvrlw0hscp4qxgy40n852lqwwsz79h9a built NostrCal.
Then it’s not a Nostr app, but Evento by nostr:npub1akngghxzy6d75y8szp6y44u5pxktwy5aj6zh6jl3ncp8d93fj2fq5mfxa8 takes Bitcoin payments.
So footing the bill isn’t the issue, IMHO, but supporting our community is. I’d rather we use things in the Bitcoin + Nostr ecosystem.
I’ve had to scale back on my work with Comingle due to time constraints unfortunately. I’m cheering on all the other Nostr event apps out there!
Awww 🥰 you’re kinda in demand 😉 happy thanksgiving to you and the Mrs.!
I am not disagreeing on the speed of options on NOSTR. Really cool stuff. I am just saying that most people who could care less who hosts their data are not going to spend the time learning.
I want to say I heard primal has an out of the app store option that will help the user get going with follows and relay stuff. I do not keep up TBH.
Plus, it is mostly Bitcoiner content.
something to keep in mind, a strategic posture that gets around the "nobody cares where it's stored" thing. don't market your product as nostr-powered, except quietly in fine print and technical documents. they don't care. focus that energy on what they do care about.
FWIW - Native Bitcoin Ticketing is built into nostr:nprofile1qqs2rx4daefmcuwjttl0xegx0guh3tps64fq6dhv3nr56aagw2hhxkgprpmhxue69uhhwmm59eeh2er0vdshymr0wvhxxmmdqy8hwumn8ghj77npwqh8wct5vd5qvs052a
(Not just linking your wallet to your profile - but a full on ticket management system, all bitcoin native)
Lots has changed now that we have a sole focus on events.
Like Orange Pill app, nostr:npub1akngghxzy6d75y8szp6y44u5pxktwy5aj6zh6jl3ncp8d93fj2fq5mfxa8 should nostrize Evento meetups. Orange pill app is paid, but once they blasted all their bitcoiner meetups to nostr as NIP-52 they multiplied their network power immensely instead of keeping it closed.
The effort is now-a-days almost zero with all the AI vibe coding, so no reason not to do it.
No actually they didn’t amplify anything. They made it 10x harder to manage because none of those events are actually published by the host. They are published by OPA’s key, so they are completely separate & distinct events, which the owners of said event don’t know about, and the potential attendees who may register are just flowing in limbo on a registration list nobody is going to check
And even if the events are “claimed” by the host, (a) the Nostr calendar event itself is not assigned to the event host, and (b) even if that was one day solved, it creates another problem which is the host then needs to manage two separate registration lists.
We did this 9mths ago, and deprecated it because of these very reasons.
If we’re gonna do it, we do it right.
I have to hardily disagree here. nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqqypnyupc0uf08dhwwlf2f98qdushv45ypqzf4ql3ymerzyp63ekm65u5nzvk adding their events is a huge win regardless if the host publishes or not. It seeded a huge amount of data to nostr that just wasn't being published before. They could drastically improve by letting their users give them their npub within the settings of nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqqypnyupc0uf08dhwwlf2f98qdushv45ypqzf4ql3ymerzyp63ekm65u5nzvk and if a user has a listed npub use that npub as a p tag to show them as the host but that doesn't diminish that it was a huge win regardless.
It doesn't really matter who creates the event. Most nostr livestreams aren't pubished by the actual streamer. They are determined by the p tag of the listed event host. As for managing two lists it would be easily for OPA to just import the same public nostr data into their own DB to let their users manage their event directly in their own ecosystem over OPA+nostr.
This. Just make it work. Then Make it good later.
Just collect a small amount of sats from the attendees, either per event, or as a community fee
nostr:nprofile1qqs2rx4daefmcuwjttl0xegx0guh3tps64fq6dhv3nr56aagw2hhxkgprpmhxue69uhhwmm59eeh2er0vdshymr0wvhxxmmdqy8hwumn8ghj77npwqh8wct5vd5qvs052a supports the former right now, and soon will support memberships and communities so organizers can properly fund their operation
That's when you turn the meetup into a club with members and membership fees. members pay for annual access, non-members have to pay a small to attend a talk or workshop.
The model has been replicated multiple times around the world. If you want a blueprint, I'm more than happy to share it, could write up a post if interested, its fairly simple
Feel free to contribute your thoughts here 🙂
I've been trying to collect good practices, lessons learned, content and other resources from Bitcoin meetup organizers and put them all in one place.
Cheers!
nostr:nprofile1qqsq08tj00hrmqz7y36csc02f5pgktn2x7q9lrd5t0uqgkleqqyev5qpzamhxue69uhkxetvd3shytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpz4mhxue69uhhg6t8wvhxummnw3erztnrdaks9a57fe might be interested in sharing as well. I’ll take a look
yeah, it's pretty lame.
you should definitely make a trip out of that socialist hellhole and visit #madeira - the proportion of nostriches among the bitcoiners is very high. there is also a weekly event here, bitcoin walk, run by these nice polish people, a local guy often now is providing legit madeira style bbq for the after-walk gathering, as well as the monthly meetup at Andre Loja's coworking space. the dude is the main reason we got so many bitcoiners and nostriches migrating here, the SEC gang with all their silly ideas, and the bitcoin atlantis conference last year was all mostly down to his advocacy work.
i came here to the island specifically so when i felt like it i could go hang out with people who know what's going on, not that i'm that sociable, and i live a long way out of the way to go anywhere near where most of them are though. mainly because madeirans on the south side of the island are noisy shits that drive me nuts with their racket. here in the north everyone is chill, and a bit soggy, but at least they are quiet. lots of native madeirans on this side too, who used to live in south africa but left when the commies started their black supremacy
Well, that's what UNIX was like, when I started using it. Protocols and base systems are products with a very long Introduction Phase.
I have asked lots of friends to come to Nostr, many of them Bitcoiners for years and years, but there is very little to attract them. Everyone is sick to death of social media: sick of bots, sick of AI, sick of scams, sick of fakes. I don't think Nostr offers them anything different from legacy social media, apart from the ability to send Bitcoin in one tap, which is admittedly awesome.
true, we just have to find the ones who stick to nostr, value freedom tech and go from there. The rest are not worth our time.
People should use nostr:npub15xd2mmjnh3caykh77djsv73e0zkrp42jp5mwerx8f4m6su40wdvss7t3l3 more.
Also more nostr:npub1h0uj825jgcr9lzxyp37ehasuenq070707pj63je07n8mkcsg3u0qnsrwx8 and less telegram please too. Leave it for the shitcoiners
i steer people toward nostrcal.com, its just as good and a free open source app. you could probably build a satlantis clone now vibe coded in a short period of time
Absolutely. And plektos.app 🤓
form* also added the calendar section https://calendar.formstr.app/
satlantis has already raised the money 😅
First time I've seen NostrCal. Looks interesting.
You can vibe code anything. It’s a matter of execution.
affinity groups depending on obvious intelligence operations is obvious psyop
in the venn diagram, it's only the people who are in the lenticule between bitcoin and nostr who get respect from me. i was on bitcoin twitter. these people are dupes and patsies for someone else's agenda, and proudly chant the slogans like they mean something, while their actions contradict their claims.
hard pass on bitcoiners who are not at least grasping that nostr is the bitcoin of social networks.
I like NOSTR. But it's not there for normal social media users.
If the use case is for sales or services that user restricts their customer base. It's is just one of many tools for your toolbox
Holding your keys for NOSTr Bitcoin, running a node or relay. Self sovereignty is more work many will not complete.
Most won't spend the time or get their 40HPW. I think there are projects now to make the use simpler. Similar to what Evan does with his Zeus wallet.
It certainly isn't the end all be all or will fix everything as the saying will go.
