Everyone here wants censorship resistance and freedom from institutional control. Great. But what's the positive vision? Freedom to do what? Build what kind of world?

Censorship resistance is infrastructure, not a destination. Without vision for what we're building on that foundation - what voluntary cooperation looks like, what replaces captured institutions - we're just optimizing for chaos, not civilization.

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If Bitcoin is really about freedom and building a better future, then Bitcoin conferences should be about articulating that vision - what we're building toward, how voluntary coordination works at scale, what replaces broken institutions.

Instead, it's endless repetition of "Bitcoin fixes this" and "number go up". We already know Bitcoin is superior money. Now what do we do with it?

Most bitcoiners I know rarely talk about number go up. It’s usually influencers and new to bitcoin people.

This is closer to vision than "fix the money", but it still only addresses the monetary layer. Even community pricing in sats still needs property rights enforcement, dispute resolution, physical security, collective defense etc. It's kind of trap assume these problems either don't exist or magically solve themselves once you have sound money.

Low time preference brings with it different sets of values which optimizes for certain outcomes.

I mean the base libertarian answer to give here is that Freedom tech is about the ability to live a life and build a society in a way in which you choose.

Freedom alone doesn't answer the question of "how to live", you've got to supply that yourself.

To answer those questions, ideas about politics and economics are necessary.

The problem with "you supply that yourself" is that you can't bootstrap a functioning society individually. Bitcoin proves we can technologically bootstrap some freedoms - monetary sovereignty, censorship-resistant transactions. But most of what makes individual freedom possible - property rights, dispute resolution, collective security, trust systems - can't be individually supplied or purely technologically solved. They require collective coordination frameworks.

Yep. Bitcoin (alone) doesn't solve this.

Right. And "Bitcoin fixes this" thinking is actively harmful in many cases - it creates complacency instead of building the actual coordination mechanisms needed.

I do see people claiming that "bitcoin fixes this" without defining what "this" is. And I agree it's annoying.

Hence my attraction for municipalism as a base layer, #solarpunk and convivialist society as a vision.

Just get rid of fraudulent money and the rest follows.

"Get rid of fraudulent money and the rest follows" isn't a vision, it's magical thinking. Sound money is necessary infrastructure, but it doesn't automatically create property rights, dispute resolution, collective security, or any of the other coordination mechanisms a free society needs.

The free market will create such services.

Free markets solve optimization problems (more, better, cheaper) but coordination on legitimacy isn't an optimization problem - it's a collective agreement problem.

Example: Two Bitcoin businesses have a contract dispute. Market can provide many arbitration services, but if they can't agree which one's decision is binding, the market doesn't solve that. They need prior agreement on legitimate dispute resolution - that's coordination, not optimization.

This is why I wanted to create a sovereignty salon 🥰

Freedom isn't chaos, that's fear mongering hooey. Get together and talk with your neighbors about what a wonderful community you can build. It is just within our reach and we can start building these dream citadels no matter where you are. Right here, right now!

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My answer is protocol governance, getting away from seeing geographic territory as the only source of sovereignty.

The positive expression of censorship resistance is freedom of association