You tolerate other people ten times more if you know ahead of time that you have a shared principal with them. You'll disagree around the margins but realize you're basically on the same page.

Back in like the 1950s USA, people felt that sense with their neighbors, church, and even government. They might disagree on things, and there were some shitty downsides to that (anyone not in the majority) but they were like, flag-waiving Americans. So a question is how to recreate that, and more broadly than it once was.

And ironically, as shitty as the authoritarian economic and legal situation is in many ways, people in Egypt today feel that way today. There's a substantial sense of unity or shared ideals, aside from a small percent of extremist outliers. That's true for many developing places.

One of the major strengths of the "bitcoin community" is this set of shared identity. Bitcoiners will loudly argue with each other, but they know they have at least one foundational shared agreement. That's healthy.

There were times, at like conference side-parties, where I noticed I was standing in a friendly discussion circle with like an anarcho-capialist to the literal right of me, a progressive to the literal left of me, a human rights advocate from an authoritarian state in front of me, a billionaire capitalist with pragmatic politics also in front of me, and us standing in a circle happily talking and basically friends. It's because we have at least one shared major principle that brings us there. A unifying factor for which, as we enter discussions for which we might disagree, we know we can build common ground upon.

As certain countries get hollowed out, and as neighborhoods become more remote and distinct, I continue to believe that local in-person bitcoin communities are absolutely profound. Regular meetups help exchange local fiat with bitcoin P2P, help educate people on the latest tech, help bring people from different viewpoints together, etc. Absolutely essential.

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Bitcoin is like a sticky membrane of zero-trust cooperation. 🇺🇲🦌

Reminds me of this:

https://ncase.me/crowds/

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Couldn’t agree more

Unpopular opinion: Honeypot for whales.

Having just spent the past few weeks visiting family in Argentina, this phenomenon is clearly visible, with all unified behind the Albiceleste (national soccer team). Plenty of other shit and chaos to go around and argue over, but at least all have that unquestionable unifying element to go along a strong cultural bond. Hard to replicate that degree of unity.

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I live in my vehicle. My rents didnt know any of their neighbors after 10 years in their last house and when I wasn't homeless I knew nobody in my apartment complexes. I know more fellow vehicle dwellers than I ever did neighbors.

be grateful for your socialist programs and appreciate how many relays are censoring you for having the wrong opinion vehicle dweller

We need a conference sponsored by us so we setup our own rules and control how it goes.

So well put. And I think one of the reasons this feeling and capacity is so profound amongst bitcoiners, is that there is this shared deep knowing that if we have sound money, we can all do our thing and live out our ideals and we won’t need to be messing with each other, or trying to convince each other to ‘come to our side’, because there literally won’t be any need to do that. Things will just work in a whole different way when the foundation is solid, honest and immutable.

Kinda.

Except what does the BTc community believe in asides from BTC.

Seems to be mostly anarchists or libertarians.

Both generally retarded principals to attempt to live by. (Attempt because they fall apart very quickly).

Low time preference,

Leveraged real-estate is a scam,

Freedom of speech,

Power corrupts,

Taxes shouldn’t be hidden (i.e. inflation),

Incentives matter more than ideals and rhetorics,

trust minimization,

plus we have a few holidays.

Put simply morals and ethics are a game with rules. If someone does not play by the same ruleset, they do not get the benefits, or protections of that ethical game. You give compassion, mercy, and understanding to your friends, not your enemies.

Religion is that shared sense that gives the cohesion.( At a bitcoin conference there is another type of religion lol!) Why do you think the Bolsheviks and now the Ukrainian govt almost as the first order of business destroyed the churches ?

when I came here I felt that it will be easy to talk to small community of mostly bitcoiners. but then I heard some blatant russian propaganda from some people here. that was a surprise. and that was americans. the problem is that many people think that they are not susceptible to propaganda, it someone else stupid that are. we all need to learn how propaganda works. and as soon as nostr became popular it will all be here.

there is alot of blatant western propaganda too. do you hear that?

I did not say that that there is no western propaganda. I've just said that I've heard russian propaganda from people here.

Love this ❤️

Maybe because in Egypt they are all ethnically Egyptian or if not something close like Arab or Black African? If USA was still the same demographics like it was in the 70s it would still have unity even with all the pressure from media to divide

This is more true than most would care to admit. You can see this clearly in countries like Japan

The disintegration of the family has contributed to Western society's disconnectedness. Family breakdowns, single-parent households, and other changes have weakened social bonds and community ties, leading to isolation and fragmentation, with negative impacts on mental health as well. I’d like to believe it’s bad karma for centuries of colonial pillaging and deliberate destruction of indigenous cultures.

shared principle

Everything starts at home, create good loving community.

Couldn’t agree more Lyn!

Don't wanna pour rain on your parade but this ship has sailed. You can thank the RuZZian KGB for that. The US in now a bureaucratic, orwellian state with a strong military-industrial complex and all controlling 3-letter-agencies. The "free" market is a joke and manipulated, handouts normal, the "free" press streamlined and a billionaire oligarchy that sees to it it stays that way. Sounds familiar? Look to RuZZia, you're wealthier to keep you quiet but otherwise...https://m.primal.net/JhKS.mp4

I met Guy Swann, Peter McCormack, Max Keiser, Rockstar, Dunberg, Nico and Opti, and Larry Lephard in Nashville. My only Bitcoin hero I didn't get to check off the list is YOU LYN! We need to get a pic and fix that!

Lyn, I generally agree with the idea that shared principles can foster unity and tolerance, and the Bitcoin community exemplifies this well. However, it does seem that many in the Bitcoin community, at least in the United States, are increasingly trying to politicize Bitcoin and fit it within the arena of US political football. My concern is that the core message and purpose of Bitcoin may become subordinated to some individuals’ political ambitions and values. This isn’t unique to Bitcoin; we’ve seen similar trends with other technologies and movements (e.g., social media, renewable energy, etc)

So… I’d like to understand how can we ensure that the foundational principles of Bitcoin remain intact and not overshadowed by political agendas?

I think I will see where I can find a meetup group near me