The Nuclear Option

Yes, we are in WW3. And yes, there are nukes on both sides. You might argue we are not in WW3, but there are Western troops on the ground in Ukraine and both sides know it. Just because they aren't announced, nor uniformed soldiers, doesn't mean that NATO isn't directly fighting Russia. In fact the bombing of the Nord Stream 2 was a direct NATO attack on Russia. The suggestion by France that they could put forces in Ukraine, and the leak by Germany of a plan to bomb the Crimean bridge are just the latest in a series of events making it more obvious. The silly distinction of what defines WW3 is immaterial. For quite a long time now, probably a decade, these superpowers have been fighting: in space, under the sea, on the Internet, and in proxy wars from Iraq to Afghanistan to Syria to Ukraine. Let's not be pedantic about definitions.

I keep hearing people say that if Western boots are on the ground in Ukraine, then Russia could nuke us all. But that's not a reasonable response. There are hundreds of ways for either side to escalate a war without resorting to "the nuclear option". There is a reason that this phrase is colloquially used to mean the final and most extreme thing somebody can do. Russia will not jump to the final and most extreme thing they could do. They will escalate along one of the many (hundreds I say) other ways. Because neither side benefits from a nuclear strike.

So be prepared for further disruption to global shipping, including to the food supply, disruption to telecommunication, disruption to economic systems. You probably don't need a nuclear bunker. But you probably DO need to live local. Find local food supplies and local trade partners. Be prepared to use cash (yes lightning/bitcoin is nice but you might need something physical again), or amass a colleciton of something you can barter (e.g. bottles of wine). Maybe get a VHF radio. Make sure your emergency supply kit is well stocked. And with any luck you won't need any of this.

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Happy you said it. No one listens to me 🤣

Well, actually Russia could detonate a tactical nuke in some Ukrainian village, just like Ukraine can make a dirty bomb. I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of a nuclear incident in the next year.

Russia has been very clear by publishing a nuclear doctrine so the West knows exactly where the line is.

A tactical nuke could be used in Ukraine, yes, but Americans don't need to rush out and build underground bunkers.

Seems about right. Thank you for your geopolitical takes - I enjoy reading them.

This is quite a measured take which i appreciate.

My theory is that we get right to the brink everyone is scared and BTC becomes the standard. Everyone becomes isolationists for awhile to figure out the bitcoin standard.

Another possibility is that Russia controls a lot of the bitcoin and they are the new monetary superpower. We will be the last to know.

Zero chance of that. Bitcoin is an American invention and Americans probably own at least half of the bitcoin.

Hope so!

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Yes, gold comes in too big of chunks. I was thinking of buying 1 oz silver coins (about NZ$50).

"barter bags" and "rounds":

https://youtu.be/b2OmTB0ZvlM

This is especially true if you live in the country and there are animals you can hunt. If the SHTF, wild game is a great source of food.

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for quite a long time I am wondering if one would notice the point yo leave (e.g. Europe) in time.

and what are good places to go to as long as it’s possible…

Ukraine war is not a proxy war, it's a war where we, the Ukrainians, fight for our survival and decent future at last. Don't diminish us and don't steal our agency, you're no better than russian if you do that.

Sorry your the beach head. But that I'd just the reality of the world. ATM.

All I want is some respect and recognition of facts. Russia fights with Ukraine, not with NATO on Ukraine territory. The war goes on because we have decided to stand up and fight, not because we were commanded to do so by western powers that be.

Complete and total horse shit

Surprised that not everything in the world is about you and your country? Tame your ego a bit.

Tell me what you think of Boris Johnson's visit?

There were many of them, which one? Anyway, I don't consider it something of importance, and is not interested in whatever related conspiracy you might have there.

Is this the ghost of Kiev speaking?

My name is Anton Kumaigorodski, you can get some info about my involvement in Ukraine war from open sources on the internet, the rest will become known after we win, if I make it there.

Anton,

I am sorry that you are being used as a tool for the West.

Russia under no circumstances will lose this War.

Smarten up!

Look, we were attacked by russia, we were not attacked by the west.

I don't even understand what's your point here, do you think this is an adequate response to all of this? Do you think it's normal, when being attacked by one side, starting to blame some other one?

If anything, you are now acting as russian propaganda tool, the country which threatens you too, not just us. Stop for a second and give it some thought.

Can you tell me who blew up the Nordstream?

Well, you're talking to someone who would be very happy if "the west" started bombing the hell out of russian infrastructure tomorrow, so what exactly do you want to hear from me? Any reduction of russian economic or military abilities is a good news.

Just because Ukraine is fighting for itself does not mean that the US and NATO are not getting involved and taking advantage of the situation. And it certainly doesn't mean that Ukraine is rejecting the help of NATO. There are US CIA persons in Ukraine and have been for over a decade. There are NATO forces operating targetting equipment that is highly sensitive and requires lots of training. As far as I understand it, Ukraine appreciates the support. And Ukraine has indicated a desire to join NATO which appears to be (proximally) the reason Russia decided to decimate Ukraine before the joined NATO, since it was kind of a "last chance, do it now or else you won't be able to" situation that forced them to choose. Given Ukraine is the only flat-land entry into Russia for ground forces, it is of great strategic interest to Russia, despite whether it is "right" or "wrong" for Russia to abuse you as they are. Ukraine absolutely has the right to make the choice to join NATO, and it absolutely has the right to defend itself against Russia, but Ukraine also knew what was going to happen and the spurned the Bear anyways. When you fuck around, you find out.

I always throw my moral support behind any group of people that wishes independence from another, so my moral support is with you, but it's hard to be hopeful in this situation.

My family tends to flee rather than stand and fight. We lived in Beresan region near Odessa (Landau, Spier) [yes I'm Germanic] and we left when things started going bad, around 1905, and thank god we did because shit really hit the fan after that.

Are you aware of official russian position and stated goals regarding Ukraine, which are: there is no such a country and it's basically a russian region?

Do you understand that practically this means, first, massive ethnic cleanings as already seen in occupied territories and second, using Ukrainian population as mobilisational resource in their future wars, just like they use Donbas/Crimea population to fight us now?

First, I could well be wrong on a lot of this stuff, I can only tell you what I think based on what I have heard.

I am aware of Russia's position as stated by Putin, and I think it stinks. It is a stupid reason, an "empire" reason, and I'm always against the idea of a great empire controlling vassal states (while recognizing the impossibility of becoming free of them). I also think it is a sales pitch to Russians and that there are other unstated strategic reasons, such as maintaining access to Sevastopol naval base which Russia has had continuous access to since 1783, even while Ukraine had independence (but was friendly and leased it back to Russia). 2014 was the first time Russia was in grave danger of losing that access, and they immediately took action to preserve it. Also, from the people who I've heard from who live in Crimea, they consider themselves Russians not Ukrainians.

I do not think Russia wishes to capture territory occupied by ethnic Ukrainians. I could be wrong here, this is my most uncertain assertion. I have not done an ethnic analysis of the battle lines. But this would be bad news for Russia if they did, like swallowing poisoned food, such regions would just be a thorn in Russia's side, always fighting them for independence, causing no end of troubles for Russia. I think Russia was much more interested in capturing strategic assets and territory where the people were mostly Russian speaking ethnic Russians. EVEN THOUGH most of those ethnic Russian people actually wanted to be independent from Russia (I am NOT saying they wanted to side with Russia just by virtue of being ethnically Russian, I don't think that is true), at least Russia has a far better chance of subsuming those regions than it does of taking ethnically Ukrainian regions.

But the standard mainstream message has been that Russia not only wants to take all of Ukraine, but then to march over Poland and further into Europe. I'll believe it when I see it. That would be madness, and Putin does not seem mad to me. Evil, authoritarian, dictatorial, but not mad.

I know about the ICC warrant and the Russian ethnic cleansing and their activities with children. At first I didn't believe it, I thought it was a simpler thing, such as protecting children who had been ophaned by the war. But I looked closer. They are indeed ethnically cleaning Ukrainians. And you should indeed fight back.

But just like I say to Palestinians: "You can't win. Why don't you just run? Save your family. Move to Argentina or something. Life would be so much better." Some people get mad when I suggest such things, as if I'm working for the enemy. I'm just being logical, trying to keep everybody alive. My family ran and we don't regret it.

Because this war we can win one way or another, and because logically you can't run away forever, the earth is finite and round.

Then go win it. Godspeed.

You don't stand a chance. You are encouraging your own demise.

Generally, I give you the benefit of the doubt, so a few recommendations:

- please drop NATO/CIA/russia provocation narratives, it's early days russian propaganda which they themselves largerly departed from since. Also, russia first invaded Ukraine in 2014 when it was a neutral country with no stated desire to join NATO.

- Your "knew what was going to happen", "When you fuck around, you find out" etc passages are unacceptable and an obvious victim blaming, you don't do that if you consider yourself, you know, a normal person with some decency standards.

- It's Odesa, not Odessa, please don't use invader language to name our cities.

Even the NYT has reported 14 CIA bases, which the US has been operating out of Ukraine since 2014. During the Trump administration, the covert operation was greatly expanded, and Biden built 2 more bases, bringing the total number from 12 to 14 (according to the Times). I don't think the US covert warfare in Ukraine is only a Russian propaganda narrative. Of course this level of CIA, covert warfare activity would provoke conflict with Russia. I hate it for the Ukrainians because you're caught in the middle. But, I do believe one dimension of the conflict is US/NATO interests vs. Putin/Russian interests in the region.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

Well put 💯

I like to hope that Bitcoin can consume enough of the monetary world might, that it's effects change enough of the minds of the world, to realise, war is a stupid and purely destructive thing.