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I join in when I have something to say or ask.

I’ve never known you to be at a loss for words. Was “Nostr first” just bullshit then?

Thriving on being nasty is ugly, do better. We are all the same in different ways. We all have regrets, we all make mistakes. Whatever your animosity to Peter is, it is likely not worth being mean for being means sake.

Unless I’m misunderstanding and your trying to bully him in a friendly way into using Nostr more cause you want Peters input around here? 😁

No, it’s just signalling to the other morons

It’s sad really. You can come and go on nostr and Damus when you like. Who cares! I’ve taken a week off just recently. I must be evil!! And bear in mind some of the biggest names in bitcoin #[6]​ and #[7]​ have basically posted nothing since jointing. Do I judge them for that? No! Hate him or like him at least #[5]​ pops in every now and again.

Guys, I’m not even trying to be mean. I really just wondered what if saying “Elon ruined Twitter. Nostr first.” was genuine, given that there was no follow through.

I don’t necessarily agree with a bunch of Peter’s takes but I would rather have him be in the conversation than avoiding it simply because we aren’t helping grow his podcast business.

There’s more to being a bitcoiner than brand-building.

Then stop acting like a twat. I do plenty for bitcoin outside of running a podcast. I sponsor London BitDevs, I donate bitcoin to lots of projects from Peter Todd’s open timestamps to Anita Posche’s work in Africa. I donated to Tor. There is a lot more and I shouldn’t have to list it here just because I haven’t met some strict set of guidelines that you require.

I’m busy editing a film, buying a new business and closing in on a promotion for my football team. I’ll be in Nostr when I need it but right now Twitter is a useful tool for my companies and the ALGO is fixed.

So far I’ve been called a:

stalker

moron

twat

And I’m the one who’s “mean.”

Got any other choice words?

I don’t have time for this shit. Laters.

Pv 🤙

I’m totally not against brand-building. He’s running a business. Judge him as you wish. But balance the positives with the revenue-generating negatives. He’s given a platform to many a big bitcoiner. He’s given purpose to a number of talented but overlooked footballers. Yes, he’s promoted some crap that sounded good at the time but hey, we’ve all done that, especially those working in the marketing business. Things often go tits up later. I mean take Twitter. Jack built that. He’s liked but what is Twitter now? Elon was liked by many but now perhaps not so much. I say judge those by their activity, output and their personal

interaction. If Peter is all about self promotion then it will become evidently tiring after a while and perhaps this is where you are with him - also fair enough so just ignore rather than attack - but for me he’s done enough to balance that with genuine questions about bitcoin’s impact and influence as well as publishing personal battles with British banks (I can relate to that!) and even court cases with Faketoshi. If it’s all crap, at least it’s entertaining and I don’t feel the need bring him down for it.

I don’t think #[7]​ is questioning any of that. Seems like Pete is easily agitated and brings his twitter hostility across platforms. He seems like a chill dude in person though.

Defensiveness can be due to feelings of insecurity. I’m pretty sure what I said pales in comparison to some of the other things hurled at him on a daily basis. I’m not those people.

You are those people

#[7]​ 🫂 #[8]​ this is the nostr way…

Jesus man, lighten up

Like I said, I think he brings his argumentative Twitter attitude across platforms.

That said, I am one of “those morons.” A regular old pleb. Some of these inflooencers got some real attitude. But you know, they’re healing the world and really the ones who are brining bitcoin to the masses. So we better kiss their arse.

If someone acts like a prick then I’ll speak to them like a prick.

Yep, I hear you and I like and follow #[7]​ so I was surprised by the response (Peter is still on Twitter so the agitation and Twitter hostility is still ingrained 😉) But I believe he’s a decent bloke off the platforms…

Peter, I’m sure we’d have a great chat over some beers and this will all be forgotten. Next drink at Pubkey is on me. 🍻

Don’t forget your face diaper. Peter is easily sniffled. Don’t let guys like him off the hook for that shit. He had an audience and defended the vaxx at all costs. He’s a cuck shit.

I defended free choice all the way.

All good man. Welcome back to Nostr. You do you. We all live our own truth.

I’m good thanks

In all seriousness, probably would be nice to have a chat over a beer or two. Often totally different to chat in person than on these platforms.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dude just gave such a dick response. Gonna zap your post because what the hell. You extended the olive branch and all he had to do was 🤙 and leave it alone. Speaks volumes.

Thanks man. I appreciate that. Anger is a bad emotion to hold onto.

🫂🤙

I’m chill in person as people are chill in person. Nobody has the balls to talk in real life like they do on Twitter, if they did they’d be on their arse.

If people are hostile behind their keyboard then they’ll get called what they are. I meet people exactly how they ask to be met.

I have no argument with that. I really didn’t see what I said as trying to bring anyone down. I was genuinely puzzled at what “Nostr first” meant. Fine, Twitter fixed some of the things Elon broke, great. Functionality aside, it just sounds like because Nostr isn’t a revenue driver, it’s not seen as important enough a platform for someone with such a public profile. That’s fine, just say so. But retorting with personal insults is childish. I won’t stoop to that level.

i think it’s just naturally part of the way some people speak. like where i’m from, here in southern california, many of us curse a lot & use “insulting” words _casually_, if that makes sense. pretty sure many like in new york or england do the same.

It’s easy to give attention to the negative people Pete. Focus on the love. Thanks for all you do in the space, I’ve learned a lot from your content. Go Bedford☠️

What are you? My wife?

😂

peter, let’s go on a date?

😶🤭🤓😎🤗

What’s wrong with lurking?

Normally I’d say nothing, except that a month ago he said “Nostr first” but just kept on tweeting and barely wrote a word here.

Stalker weirdo

So it was all bullshit. Cool, thanks for acknowledging.

No but Twitter fixed the algo and I use that for different reasons. I have businesses to run and they are all tools I use as I need.

So Elon didn’t ruin Twitter after all?

Pete does bitcoin advertising/marketing. He needs the twit.

This is true and I’m not ashamed of it

He’s just promoting leftists these days. Let it be.

I don’t promote leftists, I have people on my podcast who are from the left and the right, as well as libertarians and anarchists. If you count, we have more from the right than the left but it’s important that we introduce more from the left as they will be the advocates for bitcoin with those on the left.

That’s all true. However, you promote leftists and debate the right.

I’m still simmering in my shame, but I’ll reply anyway. Bitcoin is money for enemies. However, there’s no need to push enemies into prices they don’t deserve. The meme is real and gilding enemies of freedom is counter-productive.

“We need an equal number of correct and incorrect ideas” is not the way.

I don’t see you (or anyone else) bringing in Saudi princes to talk about using bitcoin to keep banking access away from wives.

Or Russians to talk about undermining the west.

“Enemies” generally means “people who I’m not actually afraid of losing to”. It’s not a true meme.

Finally, you may counter this argument by saying “those are part of the right”. If so, you reveal the real issue. “The right” contains what you believe to be your actual enemies. There is no limit to what is tolerable to “the left”, but all limits exist to “the right”. That means all of the enemies are to the right.

Ideas are subjective. I bring in people who I think offer value.

Do your true enemies offer value? Mine don’t, by my assessment. “Bitcoin is money for enemies” isn’t a justification for what you’re doing. You’re elevating your allies. Call it what it is.

Echo chambers are fucking boring, please keep having a variety of people on for interesting chat and ignore the whinging 🤙

I support this sentiment

Value is subjective. Do what you like with your show. It’s yours. But don’t pretend you’re right when you revert to subjectivity when challenged.

Ease up on the badgering.. we don’t need to bring it to Nostr. PV.

I blame #[2]​ for all this! Just kidding, I blame myself for taking things too far. Let’s hug it out. 🫂

Only if we would be able to justify the terminal cancer of social engineering when driven by intentional ignorance, I’m sure we’d all be better off, Peter.

You know, like using false pretenses and straight up lies to justify the corruption which feeds false cored social constructs just because it fits the fake narrative.

“It’s judgement that defeats us” - Kurtz

Then whether “nothing” is something we can implore and claim just because it was the platform which users defined the science on is considered thieving or just piracy to make the time less offensive, as having targeted and aimed because created an illuminating page, is quite sickening and corrupt, wouldn’t you agree, Mark?

What? I don’t think we can, but let’s have a plague and war be a party pooper when violating our privacies is paid for by tax dollars.

let’s discuss the effects of user handlers being violated and the viral infections that followed.

Pudding?

#mainvolume be like, yeah thinking is a mainvolume thing.

Versing ain’t gonna make real if the faked, big bro.

Peace be with you, Peter.

Bitcoin needs people from all sides to succeed, and it seems Peter is doing what he thinks is the best way to accomplish that. That’s cool. As someone who was once a huge Bernie supporter and now can’t stand any political party, I have a lot of friends and family who think I’m insane for promoting bitcoin.

Being a bitcoiner with ideas the left is super hard because then everyone you talk to gives you shit. 😁

That also happens if you’re wrong. Having everyone tell you your ideas are stupid sometimes means your ideas are stupid.

I don’t think it’s healthy to be a purist. It makes you too susceptible to manipulation.

Do you believe that some ideas are true and some ideas are false?

I believe in engaging people from

where they are and not starting from a point of telling them everything they stand for is stupid. I find that’s the least effective way to win people over to any position.

Do you think some ideas are right and some ideas are wrong?

Yes, but I won’t get into an hours-long political debate about it. That’s not why I’m here.

Ok cool. Some people are right and others are wrong. 👍

I want to hear the ideas of more people who are right. I don’t care to hear from people who are wrong. If folks prefer to spend their time listening to people who are wrong that’s their business.

Since the leftists are the apparent majority on certain communication channels *cough*Reddit*cough*, probably also FB and the bird app (neither of which I use, so I don't know), most likely accelerated by algorithms, orange-pilling the leftists is what would give the most bang for the buck, if the fiat idiom is excused. (Bang for the kSat?)

Bitcoin doesn't care about left or right. Only keys.

Call me crazy. Enriching your enemies to imminentize the eschaton is a bad plan.

Pretty sure you can do better than this 🦦💜

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Grow up