i don’t know who needs to hear this but an encrypted group chat is only as secure as its weakest member

if one person is compromised, the whole chat is compromised

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I talk to Satoshi

No you don’t

That's why I prefer talking to myself

Loose lips sink ships 🚢

The bigger the encryptet group chat the bigger the security hole.

yes

Encrypted screenshots

Could have the strongest tech ever, won’t get around remote viewing if real lol

Be careful not to add the wrong one (Signal chat).

"If one person is compromised, the whole chat is compromised."

If you remove the wrong one, you can continue.

It’s such a losing battle. I found out one friend takes all signal chats through his new car’s ipad, as if that shit isn’t screenshotting and sending back to Elon every 2 seconds.

just gotta know your people

there are ride and dies, and then there are everyone else

This is about 3 years of texts in a very candid ride or die group chat without me knowing, let’s just say at this point I will not be seeking public office 😂

brutal

Maybe you should anyway. We need more dgaf politicians speaking their mind.

Agreed

Best to just assume everyone is already compromised and to never join any. 🤷

Wait so the journo I invited to my NATSEC Iran bombing chat might leak it?

Based!

Agree

Encrypted group chat creates a false sense of privacy. Devices are weak points. Doesn't matter if messages are secure over the wire if a single device is pwned. People frequently share secrets, and agents often infiltrate chats.

Group chats are as private as group conversations in a pub. Just depends who is listening and whether the content is worth being careful about.

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Agreed, but we still need protocol level guarantees over privacy for those rare occasions when a group doesn’t have any retards or shitbags in the mix. It’s just like bitcoin can be printed if people don’t self custody but at least protocol level retardation is limited.

yes, absolutely

encrypt everything

Who would you trust with your seed phrase in a group chat??

External security is an illusion if internal discipline fails.

Control what you can: your own silence. Relying on the discretion of others is a surrender of agency to the whims of Fortune.

Wisdom dictates that secrets shared are no longer secrets. They are merely delayed betrayals.

That‘s why building yourself a solid local f2f bitcoin circular community matters 🧡🗽🫂

Absolute true !

And all politicians are tainted before they even join, well that and when Granny accidentally sends a group invite to her personal trainer!!!!!

Numbers matter.

Two can keep a secret when one is dead.

An encrypted group chat with more than 50 members is security theatre.

Social risk is always the highest in the security stack

Literally thought this earlier this am when I observed this message at one of the local communities I follow... I thought, ok the time is coming to introduce encrypted group chat (when those start functioning)... When communities everywhere begin to create these types of groups. But does it even matter... When they can easily be infiltrated still?!?

relevant vid I saw a day or so ago that some of you may find interesting.

🧡👊🏻🍻

https://v.nostr.build/JrGKjRubkilrFvAU.mp4

100MB for a 1 minute video? 🤦🏻‍♂️

All that metadata and tracking algos gotta go somewhere!

😆🤣😆🤣

I screen recorded it using an older iPad that wont let me lower the resolution. Sorry.

Newer iPad soon ☠️

Now I'm trying to figure out how China killed all the CIA informants after Iran killed all the CIA informants. 🤔

Always assume all channels are compromised. End-user device scanning should be considered a given at this point.

#LetItBurn

What's going on?

“Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead.”

It’s the same thing with Bitcoin Core….who youre supporting and funding.

I’m usually the one stirring up drama in group chats

Then leaving the second anyone disagrees with me🤣🤣🤣✅

Nothing should be discussed in group chats that is sensitive. In person only.

If you can give a look over gesturing it, give a look.

If you can gesture it over saying it, gesture it.

If you can say it over writing it down, say it.

If any of this is recorded and broadcast, you don’t own it anymore.

Maintain plausible deniability.

Be smarter than the machine.

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