I feel like I need to reiterate this, because it came up before in my comments and fits to a current thread:
The shutdown of nuclear power plants in #Germany was decided during the #Merkel #CDU government.
This wasn't the idea of the "Ampel" or Green Party.
Know your (not so distant) history.
Don't cry wolf and vote for fascists because your didn't.
Thanks.
Who are the “Fascists” because as far as I know AfD just wants to deport immigrants that have been causing issues in Germany.
Not sure where you're from, but I think you don't know enough in that case. This party is extremely right-wing and antidemocratic.
Even other far right parties in the EU refuse to work with them. They are the worst threat to the stability of this country since Hitler's NSDAP.
I’m from America, unfortunately here the word “Fascist” is a buzzword thrown around so much that I assume when someone calls something fascist they mean a moderate from the year 2,000.
Unfortunately, I meant it. Wish I didn't. Wish our people would have learned.
Well, let's see how the snap elections come out. Still can come up with a refugee strategy then 😆🔫
What I meant with refugee strategy, before this gets misinterpreted: my personal strategy to leave the country
Do you if there’s a time in history where a country removed millions of refugees?
Now this time every western nation sounds like they want to do this.
It’s like poor people are political footballs.
I totally agree with you, poor people are political footballs. And that's not new, always have been.
Populism often convinces them first because they have the most reason to hate the government.
Europe/USA/World 2024:
Ungodly rich fucks tell the poor people to be angry against other poor people and everyone votes for ungodly rich fucks because they seem to be right.
At the same moment, every poor person hopes to become one of the ungodly rich fucks over night by crypto 10000x or influencer fame a la been the next Hawk Tuah girl.
FUCKING INSANE
If you ask me.
Just my two sats.
Everyone wants easy money.
Only solution for this’refugee crises’ is the West completely stop fucking the nations and creating them. But that don’t stop, it’s happening every day today
That is naive. These "crisis" are manufactured to the benefit of the same groups that benefit from war in the middle east.
Neither of them will stop. The only realistic option at our hands is to force the borders to be closed. Understand one thing: You won't go against the elites and complaing here with naive wishes won't go far, so you might as well do something useful rather than daydreaming while you see our societies dive to hell.
Yep. Russia did that to 30% of rightful German territory a few years ago, expelled millioms of native Germans and today is Poland.
India with Gandhi did similar, millions upon millions were kicked out to what is today called Pakistan.
More recently in Europe, Bosnia kicked out about a million people who refused to be Muslims and Ukraine pretty much bombs since the past ten years their own citizens that refuse being Ukrainians.
Only rich westerners are disconnected enough from reality to remember history and even less prepared they are to understand geopolitics.
America is fascist, dipshit
Quantify "Fascism"?
Fuck does that mean? Death toll in Gaza over 45,000 is one quantity
Gaza is “Fascist” because they do Female Mutilation, don’t allow them to work, drive, or choose their own clothes.
We can cry about “Fascism” all day unless you actually explain what you mean by “Fascism”?
Obama was the greatest Fascist to ever live.
Obama was a president of the United States
Idk what you're not getting about this
I don’t understand what you think “Fascism” is, and how the “United States” is Fascist.
I don't have an opinion on what the word "fascism" means, I'm sure dictionaries and/or wikipedia cover it fine
The United States is fascist because it's the name of a group of people with fascist ideology
Well if you don't have a definition for Fascism then how can you describe something as such?
It's like if I say The United States is Communist without quantifying "Communism".
My quantifying of Communism would be that of an Authoritarian regime that utilizes economic redistribution to enact socio-economic equities across racial, and class systems.
That being said, that is not the commonly accepted nor "correct" definition of Communism according to Communist literature, Communism according to Communist literature is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society.
But at least I describe to you what I mean when I say something is "Communist".
This is way too long for something that starts with a retarded question.
If the colloquial and academic definitions aren't enough for you, what else is supposed to be left? Just letting you make up whatever meaning you want for the word? What's the point of talking to you then?
No, my point is a conversation, or debate is unproductive when terms aren't defined.
I want you to define Fascism, even if you're using a third parties definition then at the very least you could link your definition of Fascism by which source, or dictionary you're using.
You're the one that brought up the word "fascism" which I proceeded with as the word that it is in English.
If you're getting your definition from some source that isn't colloquial or the dictionary or wikipedia, idk what it is and it probably isn't worth engaging with.
My definition of Fascism would be that of an Authoritarian element that focuses on National Collectivism.
Or this article sufficiently describes my thoughts on Fascism as well, from the economic stand point.
Ok, idk what that means but if a dictionary or wikipedia or colloquial usage backs you up on that then America does it
To be fair to nostr:nprofile1qqsqc3wh630dkradmfppt5mv5rv6hgx8wxu96dchwe9c5y5dtezrungppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0zsazf0, I brought up fascism in my original post.
it's time for you to do some reading IMO. There's more hard and soft tyranny in our country than anyone ever thought could happen here. Our founding fathers did what they could do to prevent it for as long as possible, but here we are-a hot mess. Why do you think it's gotten this way? Hint: Broken Money, and base human instincts.
I will agree that The United States has increased in Authoritarian behaviors, and practices.
However, I would not describe these acts or practices as an ethnic cleansing of Religious, or ethnic minorities.
Deportation isn’t Fascist.
I just want to remember that the US by founding is an immigrant construct. If the natives would have had better guns, you'd been quickly deported to Europe again. Or just massacred.
Well yeah, the groups of people that presumably traveled across an ice bridge from Asia typically referred to as The "Native Americans" if they somehow did overpower European settlers then it would've been their right to tell them to return to Europe.
The Natives Americans were Native to the America contintent but were a tribe, not a Nation, The Nation of The United States is Descended primarily from Anglo, and Germanic individuals, so it is fair to say That there were Tribes on The American Contintent but The Nation of The United States is Anglo-Saxon, or European.
Also supposedly Nordic Vikings went to The America's well before Spanish exploration.
So who knows.
I won't say anything about Gaza because I don't know enough to allow myself an opinion, but Obama? Are you serious or was that a joke? If first, please outline the fascism of Obama
Obama was a terrorist like any President
His Presidential administration drone striked an American kid (under 18)
Well, to explain what I meant by Obama is Fascist, in this case I am loosely using the economic aspects of Fascism how some industries in The United States are Nationalized, while still allowing some industries to be Capitalist.
In that sense Obama was a “Fascist”.
If you think health care is fascism, watch Salo 😂
Yes they should be banned for being antidemocratic eh..
Germany is an absolute laughing stock
I think she missed your /snark tag.
Björn Höcke arguably is a fascist, but parties are full of all sorts of unpalatables, so I'll reserve my sense of outrage for something truly shocking.
Like a country shutting down its last nuclear power plants during a sudden energy crisis caused by a war.
Yeah I don't know much in detail about AfD but:
- trying to ban the 2nd most popular party in the name of democracy is a sick joke. are these people completely insane?
- the term "fascism" is meaningless in common usage. In particular it gets attached to anyone "right wing" while in fact fascism is literally socialism. eg, you know, "National Socialism.."
- if anything is "fascist" it is the legal persecution of CJ Hopkins and others by the german state, for criticising their policies. People have literally been arrested for mocking politicians!
I am curious, can you explain why? And give examples what the AfD did or is planning to do?
Mass deportation fantasies (which would ruin the economy imo), Björn Höcke is a straight up Nazi in rhetoric and thinking. Old party lead Frauke Petry fantasized about shooting refugees on the border. They are also Putin fans and already fill their bags with Russian money.
Just some of the things I can come up with from the top of my head
The Höcke part is true (he is working with Nazi slang and ideas) and the east German AfD has a strange relation to Putin, the rest is not true at all. The mass deportation was fiction by "corrective" and Petry did not fantasizing about shooting refugees on borders, that was made up by media, basically a lie.
Uhm, isn't "Remigration" the current buzzword coined by AfD...
"Remigration" and "Deportation" are totally different things. "Remigration" is currently requested by nearly all relevant parties (Even some politicians of the green party).
Please explain that difference to me like I was five. Imo this is just wording. Deportation sounds a bit bad given the history of Germany so ofc they invented a new phrase for it.
And whoever supports this idea from "relevant parties" is just a bloody opportunist imho. Deport them first 😆
Deportation is what the Nazis did with the juws, collecting them against there will from there home place, forcing them in to trains and concentration of poeple in camps.
Remigration is withdrawing refuge status, when reason for fleeing is "fixed" (or where never real) like the end of war. So it's going home and giving incentives to do so, like starting money and rebuilding support.
If even there was media exaggeration, these points make the party unbearable for me. And the fact these people like Höcke, Krah etc are still members shows a lot about the party in general. If they were serious about democracy, these members would have been booted with a big press conference.
Instead they try to disturb everything while offering zero solutions.
