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I don't want to generate debate, but I don't understand who wants to pay for a NIP-05 identifier. I can understand that there are paid relay's, but you can fight spam and bots in many ways. I have seen prices of up to 45,000 sats for an identifier! Have we gone mad?

If the goal is to fight bots, 100 sats would be enough, wouldn't it?

And no, it is not expensive to host a NIP-05 service, a media server or a relay server is another thing, but just to validate?

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Bird1984 🦜 2y ago

Maybe the “pricey” nips provide extra services??

I’m not gonna buy the pricey nips, but I’m also just another broke pleb who would rather keep the sats:-)

Quentin 2y ago

Sometimes yes, but sometimes you just pay for the verification, crazy!

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Fair! But I guess it’s more about prestige than anything. Some NIP-05 comes with the relay, payment is for both, and accepts writes only from specific NIP-05 domain. If for example some brand started selling NIP-05 and charging for having the privilege of wearing their name, I am OK with that. It’s like paying for domain name. 🐶🐾🫡

Code & Psychology ⚡️ 2y ago

Good point!

I guess it is "just" an identifier, that could be used as a utility to identify paid members. And what you pay for will be differing for different nip05-s.

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

🐶🐾🫡🎯

Quentin 2y ago

There are cases that do have more services, but I have seen some that are only for the NIP-05, then the relay is paid for separately!

It's definitely a prestige issue, but almost all of us NIP05 verifiers are newly created. Just a thought, but it fascinates me to see some of the prices.

The Fishcake (nostr.build) 2y ago

Yes! The prices are a bit high. 🐶🐾😂

Code & Psychology ⚡️ 2y ago

I think time will tell.

Usually when a new thing comes up, hype drives the adoption, but when hype dies off, only value stays.

Cheers! 🍻

MrShroom🍄 2y ago

Nostr version of 'I am rich' iOS app.

Some people just like to build their ego showing that they spent cash on something.

For them, it somehow reflects status.

Same shit as fancy cars, fashionable clothes or some other elements of life for show.

If along with NIP there are also some usabilities like private relay access, tools etc. Then higher price is understandable.

Quentin 2y ago

Yes, if there are more services I understand that, but only the verification! We offer more services and it's all free, but I am aware that it is an anomaly in the current landscape.

yunginter.net 2y ago

maybe i just like flashy expensive yearly fiat payments but I do enjoy my root domain as identifier... The one time fee, if hosted for multiple year's isn't super crazy... Sat is a sat but fiat conversion has change since those prices were set.

Quentin 2y ago

The conversion to fiat has changed it is true, but the only argument I have found is to fight bots and spam.

So 100 sats would be enough, right?

If one day there is a mass adoption, maybe 100 sats is a lot of money 🤣🤣

yunginter.net 2y ago

weird position to be in because I’m kinda against it, playing devils advocate and showing some love to those who run them. Most probably don’t need it… I probably don’t… it’s useful if you’re at an organization and can prove affiliation, or work on a certain project. I guess my domain proves I’m that guy from SoundCloud and there is some link loop through my socials that’s consistent. But mostly I enjoy the exploit of .net to express my old twitter handle. There are those giving them away for free.

I understand the convenience… and for plebs to find other plebs is nice, I think it’s scared off a bunch of normies, that are now on bluesky using root domains and sub domains as their identifiers… even seen nostr people over there surprised when I explain that we can do this here.

Quentin 2y ago

O the other hand, nice to meet you 😀

Bac0t 2y ago

🤔 yeah i see #[2] isnt using it anymore

Quentin 2y ago

I don't understand that either. @npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63mmust have a multitude of domains that can certify that it is indeed him. That is the purpose of the NIP05 verification. But of course not everyone has the money or the time to have and maintain their own domain, in this case the verifiers make sense.

Quentin 2y ago

I don't understand that either. #[2] must have a multitude of domains that can certify that it is indeed him. That is the purpose of the NIP05 verification. But of course not everyone has the money or the time to have and maintain their own domain, in this case the verifiers make sense.

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

🫡 🙏💯

bitcoinaz 2y ago

No reason.

Users, wanting to fit in. If they want it let them pay. But yeah it's dumb if it doesn't come with a relay or acces to other services.

Iris 2y ago

And you can get a free nip05 from Iris 🤙

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/52623440/226199682-d32d345e-9d3f-424e-abd6-76d2897c740e.mp4

https://docs.iris.to/features/account#iris-username

Quentin 2y ago

You are one of my favourite nostr clients 🫶💜😀

Chris 2y ago

I usually like it when a service is free of charge and you can pay voluntary if you are happy with it.