100%. That’s why I think we don’t meet Aliens. When you meet them it’s too late. They’re too advanced and just destroy everything. Like the engineers in Prometheus
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Wait what do you mean? They destroy everything? Nah. Most humans destroy themselves. The few might eventually meet an advanced civilization. Such a civilization probably has little interest in screwing things up for us by giving the normies yet more fallacious false idols to worship.
Not talking about human destroying themselves. I’m talking about meeting an advanced civilization. If it happens, you won’t live to talk about it. They’re advanced for a reason 🤭
They're advanced because they respect the NAP, which is simply objectively true. The only way to become civilized is to respect it.
Here. Great channel by the way
Still just a guess. There's no reasoning behind why it would destroy us when we are ready rather than trade with us.
I don’t know man. If I follow your logic your conclusion is just as much a guess. Between the two I think the Fermi paradox and the dark forest theory makes more sense
"Let's open trade relations with this ant colony."
Exactly. Makes no sense.
We're not ants. But if the analogy holds true, we, being analogous to ants, cannot fathom the kind of mind and civilization we would be encountering. You presuppose wayyy too much, including the existence of such an organism, and it's based upon a naïve conquest and solipsism mentality.
You guys sound like my crypto bro coworker right now, who believes the same thing. He also believes alt season is on the horizon and that it's worth it to hold onto NFT game tokens.
It's nonsense. The process of civilization is the process of becoming more civilized. A sufficiently advanced civilization would not see us as a threat. Would not bother with us at all. Once we are civilized enough to even discover another one, we would not be a nuisance to it. Aggression doesn't fit that form of life.
It would be a waste to use energy on us.
So sorry, your inclination to believe in jealous god galacducks is garbage to me
Science fiction is Serious Business™
This is my thinking cap lol
That’s a nice hat ngl
The question is who's going to have sex first with an alien and vlog about it?
Lol! Yes! I mean, I am very passionate about aesthetics. It's very much related to philosophy and what is true on an abstract level. Plus, as it says in my bio, I'm a prick 😂
Dude relax. It’s not because people disagree with you that we’re naive or idiots. You could very well be wrong here.
I didn't say that
Please don't take me the wrong way. I am attacking the idea, not you.
Why did the US attack Iraq instead of trading with them? Now instead of the states vs Iraq take a civilization 1 million years more advanced than the US. Why would they trade instead of just taking. And it’s not a waste of energy if they have the Dyson sphere
Waste depends on values. You're presupposing what they value is similar to our fiat society. Why would that be true?
Fiat society or not ressources have value. You think if the US was in a bitcoin standard they wouldn’t invade other countries to get resources? Seriously 🤭
You seem to have missed my point completely. Statism is a premise people have, and it shapes their values. Makes them support parasites that wage war and value high time preference gains at the expense of others in their same global society.
States are not inevitably present. Statism and other such fallacies, in fact, tend destroy a civilization. Eventually reality catches up with them, so to speak. The entire concept of a perpetually exterminating galactduck operates on socialist premises as a matter of fact.
I'm saying that a civilization that tried to be galactduck by exterminating other civilizations to take their resources would run into similar problems as the Soviet Union and the United States have. It is extremely inefficient and belief in the falsehood of it all eventually kills you off.
The U.S. as a group did not profit from war. A few parasites did. To truly progress as a society, you eliminate the parasites.
Sorry to be annoying about it. When people start spreading the rumor that Weyland-Yutani is right, that centralized aggressive power actually works, my fallacy radar goes off like bonkers. Because parasites will destroy you eventually if you don't get rid of them, you won't get to rule the galaxy.
Statism 🤣
US is just an example of one side being way more powerful than another.
Wow do you actually believe that power always wants to expand and decimate other life forms? If you believe that, you don't understand true power.
I thought we were just discussing science fiction but this is a really odd thing to say.
Please tell me you're not a metaphysical statist or law of the jungle type
So serious Bacon 🤣
I'm not the one who took everything as a personal attack and then called the other person a know it all. I simply like having discussions.
I just thought we had more in common, philosophically, than we actually do. I'm a tad disappointed is all.
I’m disappointed you take everything so seriously 🤭
I literally said sorry for being so annoying about it, for being so serious, twice, and explained why I'm passionate about it. And I said clearly that I don't think less of you for having these innocuous opinions that I've heard from other people, have been annoyed by for a while, and was simply expressing an opinion on. I'm a naturally disagreeable person but I meant no insult, and I said as much.
But you didn't take my apology and instead you made a shitty comment about me being a know-it-all. If your ego is so fragile that you have to insult me, just talk to someone else.
You turned shitposting about aliens into a statism/bitcoin conversation. Also you have no idea what I think. Relax
I am relaxed. I'm also just myself. I'll interact with you or not according to my values, in whatever way I want. If I don't like the conversation or have anything to learn or that the other person values me sharing, I'm out. Simple as that. Failing to read the room is not something I care to have met with an insult to my humility. So I'm out. Deal with it.
Don’t waste your time. “I sound like your crypto bro coworker” 🤣🤣🤣
You hold the truth bacon. No one else has a valid opinion 🤣
Such megalomania to want to do that is beyond a highly developed civilized mind, and they might have the foresight to know it would happen and cause additional growing pains for our civilization, harming the few reasonable people in it more than they already are being harmed through taxes and shit.
Hold on. There’s a really good video about what I’m talking about. Lemme find it