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librekitty 1mo ago 💬 21

MESSAGE ME ON AN E2EE DECENTRALIZED APP OR DON'T MESSAGE ME 💬

there are so many available, don't act like discord is the only thing you can install

✨ TOP TIER - these are protocol-based, use any app you want or make your own:

- Matrix

reccomended apps: SchildiChat Next, Cinny

- XMPP

reccomended apps: monocles

- Nostr DMs

note: for best security, make sure your client supports NIP-17

✅ here are some other good options:

- Briar

- SimpleX

- Session

- TOX

note: this one may reveal your IP if not using tor

honourable mention: email with GPG

🗑️ TRASH TIER - DO NOT USE:

- WhatsApp: proprietary, KYC, encrypted but centralized

- Signal: KYC, encrypted but centralized

- telegram: unencrypted by default, centralized

- discord: unencrypted, centralized, and somehow still used by FOSS projects??

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remember, you can install multiple apps for maximum compatibility with other humans, just don't let it be a centralized one!

let me know about any others you know :)

#privacy #encryptedmessaging #E2EE #security #messaging #chatcontrol #decentralization #noKYC

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🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 1mo ago

E2EE isn't real until I can encrypt and decrypt messages on an air gapped Nintendo 64

librekitty 1mo ago

the ultimate privacy platform 💪

👻 1mo ago 💬 1

Unfortunately it was such a pain in the ass to get people to switch to signal from WhatsApp a few years ago that to get them to switch to something like simplex over Tor or not or session would be even more of a pain in the ass.

I have it tiered. Signal for most people I know and simplex or others for closer people who will tolerate my obsession with private messaging or share in it

librekitty 1mo ago

WhatsApp and signal are the same in my eyes

my approach is more simple: don't talk to me on a centralized platform 😹

👻 1mo ago

I agree. While I wouldn't put signal and WhatsApp on the same level because of meta, I also think centralized platforms are a problem.

librekitty 1mo ago

i should consider adding my messaging links to my profile 🤔

thanks for the inspiration

Pau Cabrera 1mo ago

Agree. I keep some accs for eventual need, but all bridged to matrix and my daily conversations, family, friends, and close ones are on matrix.

I say: You text me privately or you can’t text me. Simple.

fbb8a408... 1mo ago 💬 1

Matrix was creatd by Amdocs. security ExPerts promote Matrix.

Neigsndoig IQ 120 1mo ago

There are a few alternatives that are unencrypted, one of which I use is Nerimity. It's Free Software, and has features of Discord, Guilded, and Stoat (formerly Revolt).

It's under AGPL-3.0, and is self-hostable (though no help is provided there). I wondered if someone would be able to make it E2EE in the future.

Pau Cabrera 1mo ago

Discord being used by FOSS projects is crazy 😂😂. Matrix is a much better place.

librekitty 1mo ago

so right, there is even spaces, which i've heard is the same thing as a discord server

Pau Cabrera 1mo ago 💬 1

Exactly. It even has the same look in Element.

I know some projects that at least bridge discord and matrix.

But for real. I don’t understand who thought using discord for FOSS was a fantastic idea.

Valentino Giudice 1mo ago

GitHub is used for FOSS as well as for the central Nostr repository.

Pau Cabrera 1mo ago

And so there are other options that are not private owned for sharing code.

librekitty 1mo ago

that doesn't make it right 🤷‍♀️

4d1f4193... 1mo ago 💬 1

Matrix - metadata harvester, Israeli's kid - Amdocs

JayByte 1mo ago

I use Telegram, Nostr and Tox.

librekitty 1mo ago

telegram 🤢

but Tox fam 💜💪🫂

JayByte 1mo ago

For me it depends on use case. Telegram has convenient UX and app for crypto transactions. Also it's used for daily communications. Tox is experimental thing.

Privacy is a relative function of signal to noise ratio. So non-popular messenger could also be less private than popular one. Depends on kind of signal, you receive and transmit.

Ruby Ashton 🍋‍🟩❄️ 1mo ago

Cwtch and Cabal, I like these two as well.. 😉,

WhiteNoise and 0xChat when they're ready

And whatever Dark-Fi are doing 😁

librekitty 1mo ago 💬 1

looks very cool 🤯

Ruby Ashton 🍋‍🟩❄️ 1mo ago

I can't wait for the day they'll be ready, also honorable mention: #DeltaChat (I use daily to send stuff from desktop to phone -vice versa-)

librekitty 1mo ago

i just started using that today, well (arcanechat)